Cobb SF Intake released

[subparpunk03]

Just thought I'd post a heads up, cobb just released their short ram intake.

I just ordered it, I'll post up a review once I install it!

 

[shark77]

X2

Thanks for the heads-up!

 

[civic si hb]

Nice on there site for $175.00

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483


Under the power section though the access port is no longer there saying " coming soon" (nailbyt)

 

[SharkDiver]

http://www.cobbtuning.com/products/?id=3483


Under the power section though the access port is no longer there saying " coming soon" (nailbyt)

I think I will start scraping up some money..My birthday is next month and a AP from cobb would be a nice gift for myself..

 

[civic si hb]

I think I will start scraping up some money..My birthday is next month and a AP from cobb would be a nice gift for myself..

Right now it's gone from their site for the MS3 but there saying"coming soon" for the MS6. it used to say coming soon for the MS3, i'm curious if something is up or not.

 

[SharkDiver]

I hope they didnt just pull the plug on the MS3 Ap..Maybe the web guy messed up when he put the intake link on there and deleted the Ap.I feel they are ready to release the AP very soon since there other MS3 products are out now.Maybe its just wishful thinking.

 

[Haltech]

Hmmm $175 to suck in nice engine heat... im sold(yupnope)

 

[ZooZoom]

Hmmm $175 to suck in nice engine heat... im sold(yupnope)

And you got your degree in automotive engineering from where exactly? (no)


Cobb is famous for some serious product design, development & testing before introducing it. I implicitly trust their design. I just ordered mine.

They plan to offer a carbon fiber box that feeds off the vent path beneath the grill openings that feed the TMIC ram.

(hah) I suppose these Cobb engineers are just as stupid as those dumb-ass Mazda engineers that allowed the stock airbox to feed from the same basic place.

 

[shark77]

Right now it's gone from their site for the MS3 but there saying"coming soon" for the MS6. it used to say coming soon for the MS3, i'm curious if something is up or not.

I am sure it was just a website oversight, when they updated the power section. Because how do they go from having their own MS3 and no MS6 to now just developing AP for the MS6. It doesn't make sense. So I am sure it was just an error when updating the site. By the end of next week it will probably be up because I am sure plenty of people on here and elsewhere will ask.

 

[CT-Zoom-Zoom]

With no lower box the product is worthless, it's going to suck hot engine heat in and not cold air...

 

[SharkDiver]

With no lower box the product is worthless, it's going to suck hot engine heat in and not cold air.... $175 of loss of power.... I may just end up buying the AutoEXE piece for $700 dollars...

Why would you spend $700 for there intake when its not any better then the MS CAI type?Its a waste of money that you could use for other mods.And it says they are $789 on there site,unless you are getting in on a group buy or something.

 

[BlackJack]

I wonder what the gains are for this SR.

If not as much as the MS CAI, then I'm keeping the MS CAI on the birthday list.

 

[shark77]

Here are a couple answers from Dave@Cobb:

The only reason the coming soon picture was removed is because it was a generic power picture. And now that we released the intake, the power section is no longer "coming soon". It is here. The AP is still coming though. It has definitely not been shelved.

CAI vs SRI---
The reason we feel it is fine to release the SRI without the box to convert it to CAI is based on much testing, both on the street and on the dyno, not only by us but by many of our competitors. The conclusion: above 30 mph, the lack of a cold air source makes absolutely no difference. Also, on an intercooled car it is even less important than on a NA car. For example, in our recent testing on our FMIC for the Legacy and the MS3, our intake air temps get within just a few degrees of ambient if the pressurized side of the intercooler is 200 degrees or if it is just 160 degrees. This is due to the fact that you can never get below ambient with an air to air intercooler. So if you are sucking in hot air or cold air, it is still the same temperature by the time it enters the engine. Now this of course was with our FMIC which works much better than the factory TMIC's. But even with the stock TMIC's, once the vehicle reaches 30 mph, the intake air temp is the same as with a CAI. And again, this is based on datalogs both by us and our competitors. Of course all that testing was from Subarus since we have been in that market significantly longer. But the theory still applies.

Yes, we still plan on making an air box. Why, if it isn't necessary? Simply because people want it. Also, there will still be people that don't believe us when we say it isn't necessary. We can have people at the dyno watching test results that still don't believe it when it is happening in front of their eyes. And for those people, we still want to supply them with what they view as the best possible product. Also, it will finish off the look of the engine bay and make for a very presentable product that people are proud to show off. So yes, we will get the box to market. But no, we do not have an expected date yet.

 

[civic si hb]

Here are a couple answers from Dave@Cobb:

Great info, thanks for looking into it

 

[BlackJack]

Interesting info, didn't know that.

But what are the gains?

 

[shark77]

We have dyno charts, but they will need to wait until Monday for posting. Our tuner / other engineer working on the Mazda stuff is the one that did the dyno runs and he is at the track today. I will say it was right around 20HP, and I believe 12ish lb/ft increase. IIRC it is mostly from the boost going up a little with the intake. The air fuel was the same as stock. Which BTW was crazy rich. So we need to get you guys the AP to lean that thing out a bit.

That is on a mustang dyno too, at 4000ft elevation.

 

[ZooZoom]

Here's the dyno that Cobb just posted. Actual gains were more like 11 HP & 16 TQ over pure stock, but still nice for a short ram intake without the box......for now!

 

[MonDubious]

Here are a couple answers from Dave@Cobb:

Hmm, Dave@Cobb isn't right about how having an intercooler mitigates the affect of having a warmer pre-turbo intake charge. The rules of thermodynamics still apply to turbo charged cars. If a turbo is sucking in hotter air the post turbo charge will be hotter still. Since Newton's law of cooling still applies the air will be warmer after it leaves the intercooler compared to a car with a turbo sucking in cooler air.

Now it certainly may be the case that above 30mph that the pre-turbo air is about the same temp whether or not there is a CAI in play or not.

 

[fragchild]

I like it. May just have to pick one up

 

[LENNY127]

i already have an ms cai so no go for me but for those who want an intake for half the price and no brainer installation this might be an answer , some people cant afford 200 bucks to install the cai nor do they want to venture into taking some parts out so this might be perfect for them. the positive i take from this is : intake is out, exhaust next and then hopefully the ap will be released , as long as the r&d is moving in the right direction at cobb is all good........