The difference between MSP and Racing Beat springs. Pics.

[pro5utah]

Price and location to buy?

 

[njaremka]

http://www.racingbeat.com/

 

[JoshP5]

I guess what I really want to know is if there are any springs for the P5 that will drop it 1/2" even around with tokico HP's as the shock of choice?

Well, RB springs drop the rear a bit much on the P5. But if you're interested I may have a solution for you: Use RB springs up front for a 3/4" drop, and Tein H-Techs in the back, for about a 1/2" drop. Since Tein H-Tech and RB front springs have the same rate and wind, they are interchangeable. I will use the other half of this mix: Tein up front and RB in the rear.

 

[pro5utah]

expensive solution....hmmmm.....

 

[pro5utah]

i guess the biggest question is: is it really worth it to swap out the springs or are the struts the biggest factor?

 

[njaremka]

depends on your goals

 

[pro5utah]

I.E ?
This is not a track car. I don't race often but I like to play around and may do an occasional track day at Miller Motorsports Park...

 

[pro5utah]

Josh,
I know that RB springs are about 200 for the set. How much would the Tein's run?

 

[JoshP5]

expensive solution....hmmmm.....

Nope, I already obtained the springs. RB are slightly used, <15K miles, Teins are new. They'd be $160 shipped to Utah, I'll get proper pics if you're interested. Drop would look like the attached photos: silver P5 has Teins and 195/50s, Yellow has RB and 205/50, both have HPs.

 

[CulRidr]

I'll have to take a look at my springs which are buried in the basement right now, but I do believe I recall Racing Beat being printed on them. I don't have a camera to prove it, but I will check to see if my affirmation is true or not.

^A beautiful example of what happens when you use MP3 springs without MP3 struts.

I started this thread to clear up the ambiguity about the differences between MP3/MSP/RB springs: do you have photos or anything more concrete than "AFAIK"? I'd be interested (and surprised) to know for sure if the MP3 springs say "Racing Beat" on them.

 

[JoshP5]

Cool. While you're at it, would you mind taking some measurements like those I put in the first post?

 

[Sveivo]

This is spring madness!

Mixing front/rear like that sounds good. Both people will have a good looking drop, as opposed to the forward and backward rakes they would not have enjoyed otherwise.

I can't believe I never thought of that! Haha.

FWIW, I ordered some NF210's. Should be here today!

 

[JoshP5]

(glare)

Please post your results on the Tanabe springs--I think you're the first on the forum to run them! What kind of struts will you get?

 

[Sveivo]

(glare)

Please post your results on the Tanabe springs--I think you're the first on the forum to run them! What kind of struts will you get?

I will certainly post results! I do not promise to install them right away though. Still need to get struts!

As for struts, I am thinking either stock replacements or KYB. I think the Tokico with overdamp the system? What do you think?

 

[CulRidr]

I'll do it sometime this weekend. I'm in the middle of a move right now so things are a little crazy, but I'll try and get measurements of height, and thickness of both the front and rears. Again, no camera, but I'll post the info when I get it.

Cool. While you're at it, would you mind taking some measurements like those I put in the first post?

 

[JoshP5]

As for struts, I am thinking either stock replacements or KYB. I think the Tokico with overdamp the system? What do you think?

Oh, yeah...NF. Somehow I thought GF. The NFs have the same rate as P5 springs so stock struts will be just fine.

 

[Sveivo]

Oh, yeah...NF. Somehow I thought GF. The NFs have the same rate as P5 springs so stock struts will be just fine.

Technically, the rates are raised a tad bit . But not much.

 

[JoshP5]

That's what they say in general, but if you look at the numbers for the Protege springs, they're the same as the stock rates. 134lb/in front, 106 rear.

 

[Sveivo]

That's what they say in general, but if you look at the numbers for the Protege springs, they're the same as the stock rates. 134lb/in front, 106 rear.

Oh, okay. Thanks for clarifying. I thought the stock springs had a lower rate though?

I'm gonna stop pooping on this thread

This thread is about MSP/Racing beat springs

 

[JoshP5]

In the end I installed Tein H at each corner. It looks good, so I probably won't be using the Racing Beat springs.