Reducing oil consumption.

[daedalus]

Let us know what it is, becuase i lost my first engine due to oil consumption, and i'm not sure the MAM block is fairing any better. We tried ALL kinds of things with the PCV system to get it to not suck oil.

When we had the crankcase venting to the atmosphere via a catch can (my old setup) i would chuck out a half quart of oil a week. It got everywhere in the bay so i reverted back to the stock setup with a Millenia PCV valve thinking that would solve things.

The only thing it did was result in a big HP decrease because the car was ingesting so much of its oil backinto the crankcase that i actually had to retune the car because it was starting to detonate with the tune venting to the atmoshpere.

If anyone knows how to fix this crap or a solution, i would love to hear it so the next iteration of the banana mobile will be problem free.

 

[msp35]

Give these Krank vents a try then and let us know how it goes. i'd be happy to but don't have the extra funds at the moment.

 

[03.5MSP]

Exactly I really believe that the FSDE has a problem with weak valve guides, seals or both. I've been burning oil for about 45k miles now, yet my compression is still over 180 across the board at 99k miles. So I don't think the problem is with the rings or the cyl. walls as much as it is with the valvetrain. I'll be tearing my engine apart soon and I can't wait to see figure out the source of our problem!

I took my car to a racing shop today, and i will more than likely be hearing from them tomorrow on what the cause of my oil consumption is. I will let you guys know, maybe we are experiencing the same issue. But in my case its worse than oil going through the crank.

 

[MSP 2731]

Give these Krank vents a try then and let us know how it goes. i'd be happy to but don't have the extra funds at the moment.

What he said.

 

[kane.s2k]

What he said.

The krank vents work very well for many of my customers. My customers include S2000, 350Z, Ferrari (usually 355), Civic, etc etc. I had one customer as well with a very high 2qt/3000 mile consumption rate as well. We threw on the krank vents and his oil consumption dropped to about .25qt's every 3,000 miles with just the krank vents installed. Then we had him switch oils. He was using Mobile 1 10w-30 and unlike what many people think, mobile 1 is not a very good oil. It is just "okay" and nothing else. It also has a very high burn rate in average. We had him switch over to castrol 10w-30 and he's right at 0qt/3,000 miles with the krank vents and the castrol.

For the person with 2.5qt/3k mi, I would really suggest you try the krank vents initially and then if there is still some consumption, try to switch oils as well.

My own daily driver civic with 190,000 miles went from leaking & burning 2 qt's everyday to a nice 0qts as well.

The S2000 and new 350Z engines have some of the highest oil consumption rates out of any of the other cars so the product has become very popular with them.

 

[msp35]

The krank vents work very well for many of my customers. My customers include S2000, 350Z, Ferrari (usually 355), Civic, etc etc. I had one customer as well with a very high 2qt/3000 mile consumption rate as well. We threw on the krank vents and his oil consumption dropped to about .25qt's every 3,000 miles with just the krank vents installed. Then we had him switch oils. He was using Mobile 1 10w-30 and unlike what many people think, mobile 1 is not a very good oil. It is just "okay" and nothing else. It also has a very high burn rate in average. We had him switch over to castrol 10w-30 and he's right at 0qt/3,000 miles with the krank vents and the castrol.

For the person with 2.5qt/3k mi, I would really suggest you try the krank vents initially and then if there is still some consumption, try to switch oils as well.

My own daily driver civic with 190,000 miles went from leaking & burning 2 qt's everyday to a nice 0qts as well.

The S2000 and new 350Z engines have some of the highest oil consumption rates out of any of the other cars so the product has become very popular with them.

Thanks, that's the kind of review we need to see. I plan on slapping this on as soon as funds will allow.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

still looking for installed pictures...

 

[msp35]

I don't think anyone has this on a protege yet.

 

[MSP 2731]

The krank vents work very well for many of my customers. My customers include S2000, 350Z, Ferrari (usually 355), Civic, etc etc. I had one customer as well with a very high 2qt/3000 mile consumption rate as well. We threw on the krank vents and his oil consumption dropped to about .25qt's every 3,000 miles with just the krank vents installed. Then we had him switch oils. He was using Mobile 1 10w-30 and unlike what many people think, mobile 1 is not a very good oil. It is just "okay" and nothing else. It also has a very high burn rate in average. We had him switch over to castrol 10w-30 and he's right at 0qt/3,000 miles with the krank vents and the castrol.

For the person with 2.5qt/3k mi, I would really suggest you try the krank vents initially and then if there is still some consumption, try to switch oils as well.

My own daily driver civic with 190,000 miles went from leaking & burning 2 qt's everyday to a nice 0qts as well.

The S2000 and new 350Z engines have some of the highest oil consumption rates out of any of the other cars so the product has become very popular with them.

Yeah, thanks kane.s2k. I read through most of the thread on the S2000 forum and am interested in this product. I have a oil catch can that I have yet to install and was also planning on putting an air compressor filter such as this one
on the crank case line in order to keep oil and stuff from getting into my intake manifold/intercooler/cold air intake. My question is if I got the krank vents would there still be a need for the catch can and filter? If so can would you suggest krank vents be used in additon and would you be able to tell/show me how to hook that up?

 

[shane02pro5]

This is the first I have heard anything bad about Mobil 1 other than it being quick to turn black. I have been adding about 1/2 quart every 2k miles. What Castrol Oil are you using? I switched from Royal Purple to Mobil 1 due to cost.

Also my catch can between my Millenia PCV and IM seemed to fill up faster venting with the Crankcase filter on the side of the valve cover so now I'm back to a vac hose back to the intake tract. Venting the crankcase also made my idle less stable.

 

[kane.s2k]

You can use a catch can and it will complement the system. However, the catch can MUST be a closed system. Meaning only a in and an out port. No additional ports like say for a breather filter to go on it (e.g. the Endyne catch can). Those types of catch cans often cause fluctuating idle. You should also install it in the following order.

valve cover --> catch can in --> catch can out --> Krank Vent --> Intake manifold

The Krank Vents are extremely fast acting and over time they've been made more and more resilient to boost. They will handle up to 30-35psi of boost. There are also other applications available for other cars that intend to run up to 50psi.

If you need pictures of it installed, I have a few pics of them installed on S2000's and civics. However none on any Mazda's yet.

 

[kane.s2k]

Mobile1 does not have as many wear reducing additives or pH buffers. The moly levels in Castrol is fairly high which is great for newer and higher revving engines. I use Castrol Dino oil on my Civic and LE 10w-30 in my S2000. However I will probably switch to either Amsoil or Royal Purple in the near future since the LE is $12/qt and hard to come by. It is however one of the best oils out there and I believe it is Ferrari's factory fill.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

Mobile1 does not have as many wear reducing additives or pH buffers. The moly levels in Castrol is fairly high which is great for newer and higher revving engines. I use Castrol Dino oil on my Civic and LE 10w-30 in my S2000. However I will probably switch to either Amsoil or Royal Purple in the near future since the LE is $12/qt and hard to come by. It is however one of the best oils out there and I believe it is Ferrari's factory fill.

pictures would be great!!

 

[kane.s2k]

http://automotivespeed.com/images/krankventinstalled.jpg

That's a close up pic of it installed on an S2000. There are now arrows affixed onto the krank vents to make installation even easier. Should take under 2 minutes to install now.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

That's a close up pic of it installed on an S2000. There are now arrows affixed onto the krank vents to make installation even easier. Should take under 2 minutes to install now.

i see nothing..

 

[kane.s2k]

I'm not sure what you want. Do you want pictures of the oils?

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

I'm not sure what you want. Do you want pictures of the oils?

no sir, of the actual krank thing installed. i'm just saying, the picture you posted, didn't show up., i can see the link when i replied to this, so i copied it, and pasted. i guess i'm a little confused as to what these actually are, and how they work.

 

[kane.s2k]

The two polished aluminum pieces in the circles are the krank vents themselves. There are two units per kit. They create a vacuum system inside the crankcase when working together which is what the item got a US Patent for.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

The two polished aluminum pieces in the circles are the krank vents themselves. There are two units per kit. They create a vacuum system inside the crankcase when working together which is what the item got a US Patent for.

ahh..now i'm beginning to understand this.

 

[MSP 2731]

You can use a catch can and it will complement the system. However, the catch can MUST be a closed system. Meaning only a in and an out port. No additional ports like say for a breather filter to go on it (e.g. the Endyne catch can). Those types of catch cans often cause fluctuating idle. You should also install it in the following order.

valve cover --> catch can in --> catch can out --> Krank Vent --> Intake manifold

The Krank Vents are extremely fast acting and over time they've been made more and more resilient to boost. They will handle up to 30-35psi of boost. There are also other applications available for other cars that intend to run up to 50psi.

If you need pictures of it installed, I have a few pics of them installed on S2000's and civics. However none on any Mazda's yet.

Sounds good as my catch can has no additional ports other than in and out. It has been debated here on this forum several times as to where is the correct place to install a catch can. Now what I have concluded from everything I've read and been told is that I am supposed to run a line from the PCV valve into the catch can then the other line back from the catch can into the intake manifold. When you start with valve cover in your install order description, is that from the PCV valve?