is it really an enemy? Properly built Hondas are amazing, i love pulling to 9000rpm on my friends cars and smoking most proteges, including mine. For the proper N/a tuner, honda is one of the most viable platforms. I have built a couple 220-270whp LS/VTEC engines properly, and they are amazing. yes, there are a lot of ricer honda boys, but theres also starting to be a lot of ricer protege boys. just to say, compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges. I respect any car that is clean and fast. oh, and im probably biased because im picking up an s2000 in like 2months...haha