Had to write MazdaUSA

Macadonious

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I deside to write MazdaUSA today and let them know of the problems I had. this is what I had to say:

"I bought my Mazda3s on a Friday. During the weekend as I was cleaning it up, I noticed a rather wide deep grove on the right brake rotor circling the entire rotor. That Monday, I brought it back to Mazda with only 197 miles on the odometer and the service person eyes lit up and said, That is not right. He took my car right in and told me that he was going to rotate my rotor. This is odd considering that when you do this, it WILL take life away from that rotor and will wear unevenly. I made mention of this and he insisted that it will remain in specs. If this were a used car, I would not argue, but being this is a new car, is unacceptable. I stated that I would prefer new rotor and new pads. He disagreed and continued to perform the rotate. When I came to pick up the car he said it was ready and was test-driven and all was well. I drove it one block and found that the steering wheel was shaking violently. The service person did not want to believe me and rode with me and said, My GOD! It is not supposed to do that! He took the car back in and finally replaced the front two rotors and pads. He explained that the rotor was warped and it was due to the pads. Now the car is fine. Please keep in mined this was owning the car for two full days.
The entire time I had this car under repair that took more then a week of not owning it, I was placed in a rental car not a loaner that was told to me and was in writing that I would receive. In the warranty section, Mazda Service Transportation Solution it states that if my car is under warranty repair I will receive a loaner. Not only was I placed in a loaner, but was told that Mazda does not have a loaner program at all. The PR person at the local dealership attempted to convince me that a loaner and a rental were the same. I had to explain that one; a loaner does not require a copy of your credit card nor require that you have one and two; a loaner would not make me wait an hour in the lobby and then be transported to another dealership to get a car that was not even a Mazda.
This is the first time I bought a Mazda and generally I would have never bought one since Ford makes Mazda, but since Mazda has tried to move from that stigma of Ford and the car was barely touched by Ford, I decided that I would give Mazda a shot. I have to say this is rather disappointing as far as service goes. I was lied to buy the dealership, the service department, and the sales person who all told me that I was to receive a loaner, not a rental and was told before buying the car, that Mazda had a loaner program. The sales person went further and said that I would even be placed in another Mazda3 if I had warranty repairs done. Either Mazda is achieving new heights in lying to there customers or the dealership is promoting this behavior. As cooperation, I would like to know what your ethics are on this matter and what you will do about it.

Sincerely,
Adam Tarbox"
 
Isn't a rental the same as a loaner if you aren't paying for it. Although the service you received is wack.
 
Did you proofread the letter before you sent this out? Hope you did.
 
I did proofread serveral times and wrote in MSWord

A rental and a loaner is not the same. Let me explain; (Loaner)Here Mr. Tarbox are the keys to that loaner right there, sorry for the inconvenance. Keep it untill we call you.
(Rental) Mr. Tarbox, please wait in the lobby, our drive could be back shortly...one hour later....Mr. Tarbox, your shuttle is here. He will drive you to another dealership where you can get a rental......20mins later, arrived at dealership for rental.... Mr Tarbox, we need you to sign here, here , here, here, and here. oh, we need your credit card too. By the way if you are going to have to car for more then 2 days, you have to pay for it in full. It does not matter that it will take two days for the parts to come in or not. 10 mins later...back on road in a Ford Focus and really pissed. 4 days later... Sorry Mr. Tarbox it will be another couple of days before you get your car.

See my point?
 
A rental is a loaner. A loaner doesn't have to be a Mazda. A dealership doesn't have to keep a loaner (or rental) on hand for you just in case something happens. If they don't have one right way, you have to wait. That's life, deal with it.

Sucks that your brakes are fvcked, and hopefully they fix it. You set your expectations too high. I hope this blows back in your face. You clearly don't know how to deal with this type of situation. This s*** you started by saying you would never buy a Mazda because Ford makes Mazda ... very childish and inaccurate. Ford doesn't make Mazda. Ford is simply a large coporation that owns Mazda. Granted, Ford branded and Mazda branded vehicles share some of the components and technology. Regardless, your argument is essentially null and void.

I think you misunderstood the sales staff when they told you that you would get a loaner if something were to happen to your vehicle. Either that, or the sales person you were dealing with is simply an lying bastard. Regardless, IMO you really have no reason to be complaining so much.

What are you expecting from this anyway?
 
Macadonious said:
I did proofread serveral times and wrote in MSWord

A rental and a loaner is not the same. Let me explain; (Loaner)Here Mr. Tarbox are the keys to that loaner right there, sorry for the inconvenance. Keep it untill we call you.
(Rental) Mr. Tarbox, please wait in the lobby, our drive could be back shortly...one hour later....Mr. Tarbox, your shuttle is here. He will drive you to another dealership where you can get a rental......20mins later, arrived at dealership for rental.... Mr Tarbox, we need you to sign here, here , here, here, and here. oh, we need your credit card too. By the way if you are going to have to car for more then 2 days, you have to pay for it in full. It does not matter that it will take two days for the parts to come in or not. 10 mins later...back on road in a Ford Focus and really pissed. 4 days later... Sorry Mr. Tarbox it will be another couple of days before you get your car.

See my point?

:rolleyes:
 
hope you didn't send it yet, cause there are a lot of mistakes
 
nate0123 said:
hope you didn't send it yet, cause there are a lot of mistakes

No, he used the "A 5-Year-Old Could Have Done A Better Job." version of MS Word. He'll be fine.
 
Yeah, I'd be pissed too if I had to wait an hour for a loaner. I think Mazda would still call it a loaner, though. They should certainly apologize for the inconvenience, but I'm sure they will argue that a loaner is a loaner is a ....

My only loaner w/Mazda was a used Protege pulled straight off the lot. They just slapped on tags, handed me the keys, and said "here you go." Very simple, indeed.

Nice looking ride, BTW. Let us know Mazda's response.
 
Dre said:
What are you expecting from this anyway?
He might get a coupon for a free car wash. But he'll probably get nothing.

And the whole Ford-bashing rant took away any credibility he had when he started the letter.
 
I am really sorry about your problems, and here is some advice: get someone to proof your letters before you send them. Your letter is full of grammatical mistakes. You'll get further with a more "professional" (for lack of a better word) sounding letter.
 
round00 said:
I am really sorry about your problems, and here is some advice: get someone to proof your letters before you send them.

Here is some advice. Get someone to proof your posts before you send them out. Double posting is not "professional."

Geez, the man did not ask us to proof his grammar.
 
+ friction: you are a tool. The Net is messed up today because of the virus - I went right back and deleted the messages.

I was only suggesting that so as to help the poor guy. Don't be an asshole just to be an asshole.
 
round00, we understood you the first time. As for your rebuttals, people, understand it is his perogative to choose not to buy Ford.

Also--when you drive your car off the lot it is meant to be perfect. That is not an unreasonable expectation. I will bet anything in the world that your tune would be quite a different one if you had just plunked 20K on a car and couldn't drive it the first week you picked it up.
 
round00 said:
+ friction: you are a tool. The Net is messed up today because of the virus - I went right back and deleted the messages.

I was only suggesting that so as to help the poor guy. Don't be an asshole just to be an asshole.

Point taken. Didn't mean to single you out, round00. I just felt everyone was ganging up on the original poster when it was not necessary.

I think he was just trying to share an experience he deemed unfair with us. Sorry to offend you dude.

BTW, search my posts and I think you'll find I'm not an asshole. :)

Proceed.
 
Next time post it up before you send it! We'll help you best represent yourself and your situation!
 
The message was sent without the gramatical error. The one I posted was a draft.
I expected negitive feed back, but did not know the negitive feedback would reproduce itself.

As far as my situation goes, i guess you really have to be there to understand. I have delt with other car dealers in the past and never have I been placed in a rental for warranty work before. I guess I have been dealing with higher end dealerships in the past
 
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