I have CPE DP CPE CAI and i order the CPE FMIC as well as the rest of the full exhaust, And i will get the CPE EMS as soon as i can do a pre order. well i don't know what HP i will but i run 13.7 so hopefully i will be the first SPEED 6 to breake the 12s.
First 300 whp MS6
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MS6mike said:
That's pushing it I think. Those are the exact mods that I will have also. However, to get into the 12's (according to other threads and posts) I think you may have to have a turbo upgrade or something. However,if you've already ran a 13.7 with only the dp and cai, then you may have a shot. I'd say for certain you can run 13.2 - 13.3, but good luck with the 12's. I'd like to see a vid or slip of your run!(five-0)
Karma_hunden
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i know mike, he lives where i live and today i raced him and he pulled about 2-3 cars doing 40mph and 20mph roll ons...he kept a constant pull, so i was constantly getting *****, lol...he needs to work on his launch ( i beated him 
until i missed 2nd) and im guessing on the track x-mas tree or something...but he can probably run a 13.5 if he tries. I think that with an exhaust he can hit low 13s and if the FMIC doesnt do it, the EMS will...and IF that doesnt do it the boost controller will...after the EMS gets rid of that annoying fuel cut of coarse.
until i missed 2nd) and im guessing on the track x-mas tree or something...but he can probably run a 13.5 if he tries. I think that with an exhaust he can hit low 13s and if the FMIC doesnt do it, the EMS will...and IF that doesnt do it the boost controller will...after the EMS gets rid of that annoying fuel cut of coarse.Well let's reply to the various items listed:
1. We're direct injection so there aren't any injectors and don't look for any yet.
2. Don't you trust the build quality of the car? I know of a stock block SRT-4 locally running 10's on stock axles, slicks and the stage 3 mopar kit along with fuel and misc upgrades. Not that I'm expecting 10's but some low 12's would be nice.
3. The ATP prototype ran 12.8@108 from what I understand so 12's have been done.
4. I work out 7 days a week, what's your point? Here's my last car - www.azsupersport.com held the national record for a bit for bolt ons car with power adder - 12.3@110. Later went 12's on street tires with the mini-tub. Over 60K miles on the stock motor with 175 shot. If you're careful, more power can be safe.
5. I have a liquid to air top mount intercooler, WAY nicer than a FMIC, less pressure drop and cooler intake air. If I decide I want to I can add an ice resevoir for even colder intake temps at the track. I gained 3 PSI from stock IC going to my top mount.
Don't take this wrong but you posted the question, who will be the first to dyno 300 WHP, it's been done. Then people started qualifying it with the stock turbo, unfortunately they don't understand the compressor maps of the K04-22 and probably dont' realize it's limits. I can tell you how to get 300 WHP right now, very easily done:
1. XEDE or CP-E engine management
2. 50/50 water/meth mix - with tuning should be good for around 40 WHP on top of 93 octane or 20 WHP over 100 octane fuel. These are actually on the low side.
3. ATP DP with cutout, electric or VES
4. Cold air intake
DONE.
1. We're direct injection so there aren't any injectors and don't look for any yet.
2. Don't you trust the build quality of the car? I know of a stock block SRT-4 locally running 10's on stock axles, slicks and the stage 3 mopar kit along with fuel and misc upgrades. Not that I'm expecting 10's but some low 12's would be nice.
3. The ATP prototype ran 12.8@108 from what I understand so 12's have been done.
4. I work out 7 days a week, what's your point? Here's my last car - www.azsupersport.com held the national record for a bit for bolt ons car with power adder - 12.3@110. Later went 12's on street tires with the mini-tub. Over 60K miles on the stock motor with 175 shot. If you're careful, more power can be safe.
5. I have a liquid to air top mount intercooler, WAY nicer than a FMIC, less pressure drop and cooler intake air. If I decide I want to I can add an ice resevoir for even colder intake temps at the track. I gained 3 PSI from stock IC going to my top mount.
Don't take this wrong but you posted the question, who will be the first to dyno 300 WHP, it's been done. Then people started qualifying it with the stock turbo, unfortunately they don't understand the compressor maps of the K04-22 and probably dont' realize it's limits. I can tell you how to get 300 WHP right now, very easily done:
1. XEDE or CP-E engine management
2. 50/50 water/meth mix - with tuning should be good for around 40 WHP on top of 93 octane or 20 WHP over 100 octane fuel. These are actually on the low side.
3. ATP DP with cutout, electric or VES
4. Cold air intake
DONE.
Karma_hunden
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MS6freek said:that will be what in 2 years(five-0)
i just hope im wrong (strike)
yo, do i hear crickets?
4DRHTRD said:
Maybe you should read my sig. I have CAI, DP, and catback. For one, what makes you think that a topmount is better than a FMIC? OBVIOUSLY.....because you have a topmount you think it's better. WRONG. Your idle heatsoak will be worse than any FMIC. I don't care what you say. And if you work out 7 days a week that, to me, qualifies you as an A type personality with alpha male syndrome. I'll clearify if you don't understand all those big words. Secondly, where's the 300+ whp dyno? Because I haven't seen it. I should have never started this thread If I knew people where gonna be like this. (blah)
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you do see that it is a liquid to air IC he is referring to right?MUSOM said:
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MUSOM, you do realize FMIC isnt necessarily good do you? Here's a quick fact...subies with FMIC actually lose power to the wheels...another fact..there has been a few FMIC realeses for the MS6 with no success after seeing it actually made the car lose power, hence, they are not in the market. CPE is coming up with one that supposedly works...only way to find out, is by waiting. I still think a TMIC upgrade is a better way to go.
Dont whine for getting flamed a bit....you started this topic with a cocky subject assuming you were the first one to brake the 300 barrier...please.
Dont whine for getting flamed a bit....you started this topic with a cocky subject assuming you were the first one to brake the 300 barrier...please.
Yeah, read my posts there guy.MUSOM said:
I am an A type guy or I wouldn't be driven enough to be the FIRST guy STUPID enough to put a turbo kit on a car untested then drive to Texas to have an XEDE installed and then drive right back (like 7 hours sleep in 72 hours). Don't try and insult my intelligence, you can't even spell correctly most of the words in the quote above. I work out 7 days a week because I like to and because I'm the coach for my kid's wrestling team, also because I'm close to 40 and needed to drop some weight, don't hate.
Listen, you made a post acting like you were going to be in uncharted waters with the MS6, you're not. Do some searches on here and other MS6 forums and see what's out there before making bold claims of first to be 300 WHP.
Here's the dyno sheet you requested, posted in MANY of my topics in various places.
BTW, here's a cool video for you, of my car doing some 22 PSI redline pulls for ya....
http://www.azspeed6.com/movies/22-psi.wmv - right click save as.
Or faster download - http://putstuff.putfile.com/49623/7222439
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"Maybe there are others that have hit 300 whp, but I have negleted to see a dyno result. "
that was quoted from my original opening post. ? what do you want? you want me to get on my knees now?
I want to be driving my car 5 years from now, and with too many mods, i'm afraid i won't be. so take a damn a sedative and chill. this is a FORUM, not real life. I've got more important fish to fry than worrying about how i look. holla
that was quoted from my original opening post. ? what do you want? you want me to get on my knees now?
I want to be driving my car 5 years from now, and with too many mods, i'm afraid i won't be. so take a damn a sedative and chill. this is a FORUM, not real life. I've got more important fish to fry than worrying about how i look. holla
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Thats very freakn nice....have you ran at higher than 22psi or is that what you can run the new turbo at safely?4DRHTRD said:Yeah, read my posts there guy.
I am an A type guy or I wouldn't be driven enough to be the FIRST guy STUPID enough to put a turbo kit on a car untested then drive to Texas to have an XEDE installed and then drive right back (like 7 hours sleep in 72 hours). Don't try and insult my intelligence, you can't even spell correctly most of the words in the quote above. I work out 7 days a week because I like to and because I'm the coach for my kid's wrestling team, also because I'm close to 40 and needed to drop some weight, don't hate.
Listen, you made a post acting like you were going to be in uncharted waters with the MS6, you're not. Do some searches on here and other MS6 forums and see what's out there before making bold claims of first to be 300 WHP.
Here's the dyno sheet you requested, posted in MANY of my topics in various places.
BTW, here's a cool video for you, of my car doing some 22 PSI redline pulls for ya....
http://www.azspeed6.com/movies/22-psi.wmv - right click save as.
Or faster download - http://putstuff.putfile.com/49623/7222439
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Karma_hunden
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thats weird, im putting down 375whp/392tq with just the DP, tints and two zoom zoom stickers. I'll get my dyno as soon as i find it...i think it went out the window when i was hauling so much ass!!
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MUSOM said:
You need to chill yourself. Nobody attacked you or gave you a reason to personally attack them. Just relax and bring a positive attitude to the forum back up what you talk about and read a post fully before you respond back to it.
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