First 300 whp MS6

MUSOM said:
"Maybe there are others that have hit 300 whp, but I have negleted to see a dyno result. "

that was quoted from my original opening post. ? what do you want? you want me to get on my knees now?

I want to be driving my car 5 years from now, and with too many mods, i'm afraid i won't be. so take a damn a sedative and chill. this is a FORUM, not real life. I've got more important fish to fry than worrying about how i look. holla
Might be a good idea in the future to wait until you have accomplished the build up. Just some advice from the old dude.(smoke)
 
i just ate pasta and cereal, dont ever mix that...its so bad i cant stand being in my own room. anyways...thought i would share that with yall (alright)
 
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Karma_hunden said:
i just ate pasta and cereal, dont ever mix that...its so bad i cant stand being in my own room. anyways...thought i would share that with yall (alright)

Thanks for sharing.(monkey)
 
Karma_hunden said:
MUSOM, you do realize FMIC isnt necessarily good do you? Here's a quick fact...subies with FMIC actually lose power to the wheels...another fact..there has been a few FMIC realeses for the MS6 with no success after seeing it actually made the car lose power, hence, they are not in the market. CPE is coming up with one that supposedly works...only way to find out, is by waiting. I still think a TMIC upgrade is a better way to go.

Dont whine for getting flamed a bit....you started this topic with a cocky subject assuming you were the first one to brake the 300 barrier...please.


hope thats not true men!!!
 
MS6mike said:
hope thats not true men!!!


I hear ya Mike. I've got faith in CPE though. If they say that there FMIC gives me 2-3 extra PSI, reduces heat soak, and gives me much more, 15 deg. cooler air, I have to believe that it will significantly increase power. Kinda scary though, for not having dyno proof. I think my faith will pay off. Hopefully I should find out in a coupla weeks.

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MUSOM said:
I hear ya Mike. I've got faith in CPE though. If they say that there FMIC gives me 2-3 extra PSI, reduces heat soak, and gives me much more, 15 deg. cooler air, I have to believe that it will significantly increase power. Kinda scary though, for not having dyno proof. I think my faith will pay off. Hopefully I should find out in a coupla weeks.

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MUSOM im in the same boat as you:) i order the CPE FMIC without knowing anything! just waiting for CPE to finish welding the kits together. Lets hope is(first)
 
So I just talked to extreme motorsports in maryland about dyno testing. It will cost me about $350 or more, but I think it will be worth it. Looks like I will have some tuned maps for my mods. WHOO HOOOO! Just waitin on my CPE fellas.
 
MUSOM said:
So I just talked to extreme motorsports in maryland about dyno testing. It will cost me about $350 or more, but I think it will be worth it. Looks like I will have some tuned maps for my mods. WHOO HOOOO! Just waitin on my CPE fellas.
yeah extreme motorsports, or like, eip tuning.
they both have dynos.
 
not sure on lossing power to the ground. But I know plenty of subie friends that tell me that if you had two subbies with stock turbos and the same mods, only difference being on had aftermarket TMIC and one had FMIC, the TMIC one usually won. Now when a new turbo is put in the factor thats a different story, but thats on stock turbo.
 
At some point in the future I may consider a turbo upgrade. Maybe during the summer? I dont know much about the market right now, and there is a lot to learn.
 
Karma_hunden said:
is anyone here planning on upgrading their turbo?

not here.

Yes I plan to upgrade my turbo. But I have one road block stopping me. a wife that reminds me that its my DD and I have a Datsun 510 to to modify highly. lol. So planning and going to be doing are two different things. lol.
 
freekwonder said:
not sure on lossing power to the ground. But I know plenty of subie friends that tell me that if you had two subbies with stock turbos and the same mods, only difference being on had aftermarket TMIC and one had FMIC, the TMIC one usually won. Now when a new turbo is put in the factor thats a different story, but thats on stock turbo.

The subi's have a large hoodscoop directly over their TMIC, we have some crap ducting, thier IC sits off the back of the motor allowing the air to flow through, ours sits directly on top of the head with basically nowhere for the air to go...I'd say their TMIC setup is far superior to ours right out of the factory, and it's understandable that they might no see any gains on the stock turbo. But, with our stock IC losing almost 4 psi across the core I don't see how a properly designed FMIC could not make more power on our motor with the stock turbo.--with tuning to eliminate fuel cut
 
ssinstaller said:
The subi's have a large hoodscoop directly over their TMIC, we have some crap ducting, thier IC sits off the back of the motor allowing the air to flow through, ours sits directly on top of the head with basically nowhere for the air to go...I'd say their TMIC setup is far superior to ours right out of the factory, and it's understandable that they might no see any gains on the stock turbo. But, with our stock IC losing almost 4 psi across the core I don't see how a properly designed FMIC could not make more power on our motor with the stock turbo.--with tuning to eliminate fuel cut

Thats the problem. Everybody that has their side of the TMIC vs FMIC arguement has no proof, they just go off of what people say or their experience with other cars. There isn't enough info out there to say which is better for what. Like you said the stock IC is losing 3-4 psi across the core, so a good TMIC is going to see more power also.
 
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