BEGI Turbo Owners, help!!

[smp3000]

18 pounds of boost and only a 12 sec 1/4?? hehe

Well, if your buddy knows a thing or two about turbo installs, then you won't have any trouble at all. My best friend is a technician at Audi, and we had our fair amount of trouble... Not because of his knowledge on cars, but more so his inexperience in installing a turbo on a N/A car. It's pretty complicated.

I'd say it's a 7 onthe difficulty scale. But like I said, if your friend knows turbo installs then you should be fine.

As long as you follow operating instructions and don't boost over recomended levels, then you won't have any problems.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Man am I late to the party or what here? No one even drops me an invite! Well most of what Linux's issues were have been addressed, but I will say that some of the clamps that came with the kit are just not useful at all. I think replaced half my clamps or so with ones from the auto parts store. I may replace them all because every so often the BEGI clamps are loose while the new ones are tight tight tight!

Update on the BEGI kit, Corky is sending out parts from Colorado to address the ECU / o2 sensor issue in the next two weeks. All the owners of the kit should be recieving some parts within this time frame. What these parts are, he didn't tell me. He also strongly suggested a fuel pump upgrade should we ever decide to up the boost.

Good luck Linux, you're almost there!!!

 

[smp3000]

Yes,

I spoke to Bill at FM and he said the devices are shipping out tomorrow. Now I'm not sure if he meant they are shipping to Corky, or to us... The part is a gizmo that attaches to the ECU. Basically it just stops the ECU from takinfg feul out at half throttle.

Corky suggested a feul pump upgrade for 8 psi?

 

[1sty]

Yes,

I spoke to Bill at FM and he said the devices are shipping out tomorrow. Now I'm not sure if he meant they are shipping to Corky, or to us... The part is a gizmo that attaches to the ECU. Basically it just stops the ECU from takinfg feul out at half throttle.

Corky suggested a feul pump upgrade for 8 psi?

I talked to FM about this a fews ago and it will be unneccessary. the extreamly high fuel pressure that most pumps can't handle was do to the need of the FPR to send a crap load of fuel in to over come the stock ecu from takeing out 30% of it. Once thats solved the extra high pressure is unneeded.

How long ago was your conversation with Corky? I was under the impression he agreed that the fuel pump was no longer needed.

 

[Keith@FP]

Yes,

I spoke to Bill at FM and he said the devices are shipping out tomorrow. Now I'm not sure if he meant they are shipping to Corky, or to us... The part is a gizmo that attaches to the ECU. Basically it just stops the ECU from takinfg feul out at half throttle.

Not quite. It prevents the ECU from seeing the extra fuel you're adding under boost. Half throttle, full throttle, whatever. The parts are being shipped from FM directly to those of you with the kits.

Sorry I'm late on this one, guys. If anyone's ever got any direct questions for me, keith@flyinmiata.com is the best way to go if you can't find a phone.

Linux, if you can send me a list via email of the parts that didn't fit (including clamps, etc), we'll have a look at them. We spent part of the day putting together a pparts list for the kits, and we need to know where there are errors in Corky's original instructions. I know he has sent us an updated list recently. Oh, and we'll be writing new instructions as well to stop some of the confusion. Corky's a great engineer, we're better at some other things

The BEGI/FM kit is designed to retain all the stock emissions controls to allow CARB certification. There's a pretty big fine for removing a cat if you get busted, too. Just FYI. Our dyno numbers are with both cats in place and healthy.

I don't believe a fuel pump upgrade will be necessary. We actually tried running without the AFPR at one point to see if we could trick the stock ECU into delivering the fuel we needed. Nope, but it does illustrate how much less pressure you need to run than we had originally anticipated.

Keith

 

[1sty]

Damn I love it when your on the board Keith.
To start the list all 2" clamps for the intercooler pipers were too small.
The only thing I would add would be clamps for the radiator hose segment. The stock clamps didn't hold mine tight enough under boost.
I can't remember anything else being wrong. I actualy had extra clamps at the end of the install.

 

[LinuxRacr]

I first want to say thank you ALL for your help! Doing this by myself, this is a big ass task. Kieth, I will be glad to help you with the instructions when I am done with the install. Time to get to work!

 

[smp3000]

Anything for you Linux, hehe

But one thing I think me and all the other BEGI owners agree on is that FM needs to get an MP3 in there for install and testing. Before a company can market a product for a certain car-ALL the kinks should be worked out, and the only way to do so is for them to see it first hand.

When BEGI released the first ten kits-all the troubles weren't found out until the first MP3 did the install.. Luckily by the time I got my kit a lot of the hoses and pipes were modified to fit. But like I said, even then I still had to buy MANY replacement parts in order to get things to fit.

I'm not saying FM should buy an MP3-nore am I saying they need to give away a kit, but I do think they should at least do an install at no cost. It would more so be for their knowledge and testing. I know when I offered to have them install and test the kit on my car (kit already purchased by me) - I was told the cost would be about a grand for labor and dyno tuning. I understand we should all be paid for our work but when something is marketed to work on a certain system, car, etc - It should at least be tested upon it. This is in by no way a knock to FM, they are by far the leader in aftermarket mazda tuning, and are doing awesome things!! It's Just my opinion on having a product realeased without kinks. I work in the software business and I know all too well how bad it would be if I released a program with major kinks and quirks.

 

[big_ben]

Seeing if I can find a salvaged Protege somewhere-sot ha tI can hollow that one out.

It's easy to hollow out the first cat. It is about a one hour job. All you do is take it off, the get the fattest drillbit you can find and start drilling out the contents. They are a fiberglass/pummice type material. Make sure you get all of it all the way to the metal meshing that surrounds it, then take out the meshing. Also, while you have it out, you might as well take it to a machine shop and have the outlet hole bored out as much as possible. That hole is very small, like 1.7". You can easily make it 2" and greatly improve flow.

 

[Keith@FP]

I agree we need to do an install on an MP3. But we also have to pay our own bills. I'm sure we can work something out with the first person who comes to us for an install.

I wasn't involved when the kit was announced. I think that billing it as an MP3 kit is wrong for several reasons - that's the least suitable model due to the extra timing and there just aren't all that many of them. But we'll make it fit on both the normal Proteges and the MP3s.

Given the price of a new cat, I would recommend having a test pipe made up to replace the cat instead of hollowing out a good one. It'll probably work out cheaper if you have to replace the cat for some reason.

Keith

 

[LinuxRacr]

*wipes forehead* Intercooler & pipes installed! Damn! On to the rest...:mad:

 

[smp3000]

Keith, I totally agree with you. Maybe Gearing the kit towards the P5 is better. I mean, much bigger market. Besides, most of us MP3 owners that wanted to go turbo already have. P5's are very popular and are awesome little cars. It's a goldmine!

As far as the Cat is concerned. Our cars have two cats: One connecting to the down pipe and then another about a foot away ont he exhaust piping. I had my second cat bypassed iwth a straight pipe and definately felt a power increase. The machine shop I went to is known for building some of the fastest cars in AZ-and they said building a pipe to bypass the first Cat would be super tough because of the flange on the downpipe and the flange on the other end of the exhaust. He told me the better route to go would be to hollow it out-or buy a salvaged one to hollow out and switch in and out as I pleased.

 

[PortCityMP3]

When BEGI released the first ten kits-all the troubles weren't found out until the first MP3 did the install.. Luckily by the time I got my kit a lot of the hoses and pipes were modified to fit.

Your Welcome

 

[LinuxRacr]

Pre-testing phase

Just off the jack-stands!!!(2thumbs)

 

[smp3000]

Looks nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[1sty]

You have to make new holes in the heat sheild other wise it sits too far to the let and the turbo will burn the cloth on the hood.

 

[Stou]

Just off the jack-stands!!!

So now I presume that you are in your car doing some test drive! (rockon)

 

[Aricjm15]

your heat sheild was bent the wrong way too eh? the shop that installed my brothers just heated it up with a torch and bent it in the correct direction, talk to Corkey he might send you a new one

 

[AustinJohn]

Congrats!

 

[1sty]

I didn't think that its bent the wrong way its that the bolt holes on te MP3 on the radiator dont line up like they do on the P5.