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Yup..Clouds of White Smoke from my turbo
- Thread starter Engineer420
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wasn't a pcv issue for me. car smoked, added catch can and it still smoked. maybe you'll have better luck.
did you try with oil??
Silver Ecstasy
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I have been following these issues pretty closely over the years I've been on the various MS forums, but I will go through that thread some time and tabulate the number of smoking exhausts correlated with mid-pipe cat deletes. So far you have pointed to one, but that's gotta be counted as anecdotal even though it's your buddy. And what kind of smoke? Billowing smoke? A little smoke at idle? Smoke on hard acceleration? If one is meticulous, a little smoke could be taken as something more serious than it is. And only after a few weeks? That's pretty soon if the idea is that it happens eventually and eventually will happen to everyone with an exhaust mod. Did he get a new turbo b/c of the smoking? Also, there have been smoking turbos on completely stock cars and those with just the MS-CAI, so that in itself should be enough to show that it isn't caused simply by any and all exhaust mods.
One thing I'm pretty sure of is that there will be zero smoking exhausts correlated with an aftermarket CBE. The stock CBE has been shown to be very free-flowing already. And it seems unlikely that Mazda would offer an MS option that risked causing turbo seals problems b/c of the reduced back pressure. Not out of the question, but unlikely.
DP's may be another story, especially catless DP's. But even there, it may that the cats are just masking smoke that is there with or without exhaust mods. It seems more likely to me that the substantially reduced backpressure may simply allows turbo to spin out of it's efficiency range.
Lastly, I fail to see how the whole forum is backing you up on your simplistic single-factor analysis.
No point in (deadhorse
You've got your opinion, i've got mine. I just choose not to play with risks. Besides, it's only going to change the volume anyhow.
No point in (deadhorse
You've got your opinion, i've got mine. I just choose not to play with risks. Besides, it's only going to change the volume anyhow.
can you also choose to stop with the "exhaust mods make your turbo's smoke!!"
i have seen you say this too many times in too many threads...we know...and still choose to mod. Its ok...we will get through it.
as for your analysis of the forum... c'mon man you need to do more work to build a solid conclusion. you need to define a measurement of "smoking" (a little, a lot, some, billowing?) then you need to track the mods used. you may want to get mileage info and build date...point is you need the data first. then you need to compile it and look for trends. then you build a theory from that data. next you test your findings. rinse and repeat until you find solution... Until someone goes through the process, while we may think we know the problem and solution, the root cause could be something totally different.
Trust God. All others bring data.
Silver Ecstasy
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Dude, I love cars but I don't have time to sit and draw up a detailed theory of why and how consistently turbos go back relating to exhaust mods.
If you want to do it, go for it. It doesn't really matter to me. But the consistency is proof enough for me, and it's already proven that the exhaust mods do relatively little to improve power. It does a lot to change exhaust tone. So, for so little gain on something that can cost anywhere from $200-800 with potential for smoking a turbo, or smoking from your exhaust, and having to install/uninstall whenever you want to flex your warranty muscles..
Again, I have an opinion on it, and existing owners of exhaust mods and turbo issues may feel the same.
If you're in denial over it and are willing to spend the money, go for it!!
If you want to do it, go for it. It doesn't really matter to me. But the consistency is proof enough for me, and it's already proven that the exhaust mods do relatively little to improve power. It does a lot to change exhaust tone. So, for so little gain on something that can cost anywhere from $200-800 with potential for smoking a turbo, or smoking from your exhaust, and having to install/uninstall whenever you want to flex your warranty muscles..
Again, I have an opinion on it, and existing owners of exhaust mods and turbo issues may feel the same.
If you're in denial over it and are willing to spend the money, go for it!!
Dude, I love cars but I don't have time to sit and draw up a detailed theory of why and how consistently turbos go back relating to exhaust mods.
If you want to do it, go for it. It doesn't really matter to me. But the consistency is proof enough for me, and it's already proven that the exhaust mods do relatively little to improve power. It does a lot to change exhaust tone. So, for so little gain on something that can cost anywhere from $200-800 with potential for smoking a turbo, or smoking from your exhaust, and having to install/uninstall whenever you want to flex your warranty muscles..
Again, I have an opinion on it, and existing owners of exhaust mods and turbo issues may feel the same.
If you're in denial over it and are willing to spend the money, go for it!!
Wrong...
DP/RP or full downpipe will net you big gains. if you had said replacing the cat-back then you are right...
Silver Ecstasy
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Big gains at Dyno? Or SOTP?
shane02pro5
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The actual hp gains may not be as great as having a better powerband making more power sooner.
Big gains at Dyno? Or SOTP?
ms3 stock dyno vs. ms3 cp-e turboback = +30 HP +40 TQ difference in the 2...this to me is a big gain.
SOTP (sum of the parts?)
if that is what you meant then c'mon man HP/TQ of bolt-ons can't be calculated by adding the gains from each part...that only works for the i-vtec yo and sticker crews
Silver Ecstasy
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SOTP = Seat Of The Pants, lol.
That's a pretty decent gain.
That's a pretty decent gain.
SOTP = Seat Of The Pants, lol.
That's a pretty decent gain.
hahaha
I was WAY OFF! (rofl)
i even googled it! here is what i found...
SOTP Sex Offender Treatment Programme
SOTP Sum of the Parts
SOTP Seat of the Pants<---not sure why i missed it...
SOTP Shadows of the Past (California history reenactment group)
SOTP Sins of the Past (finance)
SOTP Speed of Thought Players (Providence, Rhode Island improv comedy group)
SOTP Sounds Of The Past (vintage motorcycle racing series)
SOTP State of the Planet (Science Magazine series)
SOTP Saturn Orbiter/Titan Probe (now known as Cassini-Huygens)
SOTP Song of the Paddle (canoeing website; book)
SOTP Sound Of the Police (song)
SOTP Sheraton on the Park (hotel in Sydney, Australia)
SOTP Stones Of The Past
SOTP Song of the Paddle (web forum)
SOTP Split Option Training Platoon
SOTP Stepping Off the Path
SOTP Socit des Officinaux Sous-Traitants en Prparations
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