XEDE Engine Management System Available Soon!
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Ok! Read this whole thread Lots of great info on here as well as incredible knowledge floating around. I have a few humble questions (Nutari &Stephanie). Bought my car a few months ago and love it. The itch for more power came right away, and lead me to the MS CAI in fear for my factory warranty. I now see it becoming a crutch after reading all of the threads, and posts on all of the boards. Even though I have no issue's at all with CEL's and almost 2000 miles on it I am convinced that the MS is not engendered/tuned correctly to support future modifications(Xede/EMS units) Do you have any experience's tuning with this? If I have to dump my MS CAI to make the best of my LONG awaited TUNE solution well so be it. Also while i am not completely in the dark in knowledge. I may or may not trust myself in creating maps to burn to this unit. With the plethora of bold-on and more to come, will the maps be along the lines of something similar to stages of the car? Or am I able to buy the TMIC and have a map at the ready for my Xede to react.
Thanks for you time in advance
Tim
Thanks for you time in advance
Tim
nypest said:
I've had the XEDE since the beginning of the year and also run a CPe CAI and ETS TMIC with base map and no problems.
I just found a place to do Dyno runs. I figure once my test pipe and Corksport DP come in I will take it there. Any tips on tuning the XEDE Stephanie or Nutari? Or any way to get yall to help out some how?
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JimmyMac said:
ask the owner/operator of the dyno if they have experience doing dyno tuning. the XMAP software is very easy to work with and they should be able to tune it to make the best numbers on your setup.
nypest said:
What's designed poorly, the Mazdaspeed CAI? I'm not sure where you received that information from, but so far all the currently available Cold Air Intakes are yeilding the same gains. Average is ~25HP & 25 - 30 ft/lbs of torque.
*Edit* Additionally the Mazdaspeed CAI is a little different in design but that's it. It's a two piece design vice one piece and the bottom where the filter is attached is different. Other brands curve up a little but numbers are numbers. Just my .02 cents.
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M3_Zoom said:
Of course my readings are prob just opinion at most, but I do read a lot about how the MS CAI isn't tuned correctly (I dont know how much of that is agenda driven), and that its poorly designed. Dont get me wrong Id love to keep it. But with a TUNE in mind I hear that the MS CAI will be a crutch. AS far as mapping is concerned with units like the Xede. With out havening to spend $$$$ on a custom tune... hope I make sense (screwy)
M3_Zoom said:
Of course my readings are prob just opinion at most, but I do read a lot about how the MS CAI isn't tuned correctly (I dont know how much of that is agenda driven), and that its poorly designed. Dont get me wrong Id love to keep it. But with a TUNE in mind I hear that the MS CAI will be a crutch. AS far as mapping is concerned with units like the Xede. With out havening to spend $$$$ on a custom tune... hope I make sense (screwy)
You'll be fine with a MS CAI on the car. Even with that the car still runs pretty damned rich on the stock tune from the dyno sheet's floating around. The concern the other parties were putting in place were for heavily modified vehicles where you want the fuel trim reading as close to stock as possible for tuning reasons. Tuning the vehicle for your after market performance parts is always a nice thing to do, but if the only mod your doing for a while is a MS CAI you'll be fine just putting it on and resetting the ECU.
CTGrey02 said:
Thank you for the input. I may have missed what i was trying to say. I have the MS CAI love it , also a TMIC. Soon to have a test pipe, and ready to buy and XEDE. My concerns were in the tuning, and if the XEDE folks had the MS CIA in mind, and if the MS CAI would hinder the outcome of my set up WITH the XEDE considering the notations that "may" not be properly tuned. Caint wait to get the XEDE, just doing my research b4 i buy. Trtying to find out if im better off going back to the STOCK intake (yuck) or installing a different one that might complement the XEDE better......... hope im more lucid
StephanieT
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Glad to hear there are no problems. When you get ready to go to the dyno, call me (during office hours) and we can arrange a contact person in case help is needed after hours.JimmyMac said:
Stephanie
Still waiting on the "test" pipe and a BOV. Once all that stuff is in... I'll arrange a Dyno run/tune. I'll let ya know as soon as I have a date. So far everything is good. Just installed the CS downpipe a couple weeks ago. Went to Ohio and back (to NC). From sea level, thru the mountains, and back. And still NO problems or CEL. All is good. Just can't wait to get it tuned in... Oh.. and can't wait to get PnP as well. Even though I'm hard wired in. Would be nice to get the PnP installed.
JimmyMac said:
jimmy, if you have an extra $300 to burn, i highly recommend getting a wideband 02 setup for the cockpit. Most of the dyno's have them but find a dyno that uses one that goes into the o2 sensor bung opposed to the exhaust pipe one. I only use dynojet dyno's
Can`t the stock ECU be tuned nicely and i`m sure they can do it Germany or Norawy,those folks are pretty clued up about tuning and ECU programming and are far more ahead than us guys here in the states.You don`t really need an EXEDE or any piggy back if you know the stock ECU maps and beahaviour well.Look for European resources about tuninf the Mazda MPS.
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funkyman said:
Doubt the Europeans have even done much on the MSP3 ECU, since the car is not a big seller there. Cobb, on the other hand, owns an MS3, has cracked the ECU, and says they'll have something in a couple of months.
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Aricjm15 said:
Looks like they mean business to me:
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