Worst Mazda dealership ever (Montreal)

djstan

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Worst Mazda dealership (Montreal) & even worse reponse from Mazda Canada

I promised myself I would post this after a few weeks of not having received a response. I haven't, so here it is, buyer beware.

Michel Benchimol
Mazda Canada Inc.
305 Milner Ave., Ste. 400
Scarborough, Ontario M1B 3V4, Canada
Mr. Benchimol,

I am 27 years old. The first car I ever drove was the Protgs first model year. My mother purchased it and I drove my first years in it. I said back then, never really believing, that my first car would be a Protg. In 2001 I was tired of driving a used car, I had a good job and was starting to think it was time to buy a new car. After thoroughly looking at what was available, I decided on the Protg 2001 ES GT. From the time I started looking for a car to the time I took delivery, a total of only 4 weeks had gone by. Needless to say I have always been a fan of Mazda.

Before I continue, let me be clear, I love Mazda, I love my car and I dont believe this specific case to represent the true image of Mazda. However, I believe some sort of action needs to be taken to correct the image being portrayed by one dealership.

I'm writing to express my serious dismay and disappointment in a specific Mazda dealership. All my dealings with Mazda have led me to believe that Mazda now finally has strived to truly become the leading auto manufacturer it was always meant to be except this one.

Here is a short synopsis of my two dealings with the Mazda 2-20 dealership in Dollard Des Ormeaux, QC.

Date: Oct 29 2003 / Invoice: 909249

I brought my car in for a 30,000km basic maintenance. Everything was fine, but what struck me as a little odd was that a customer came in after having picked up his car and was furious because his car had been scratched while at the dealership. The service person there, without even looking at the car, claimed that wasnt so. Usually I tend to believe that the person claiming it happened to be correct and not lying. In this case I thought that there could be no way this service person was treating a customer like that unless he really was in the right. I didnt pay too much attention, but the customer left without any sort of help, word or compensation. I ignored it.

Date: Jan 06 2004 (two days before my birthday of all things) / Invoice: 912499

I brought my car in for a 36,000km large maintenance. I asked for a check on the coolant system and the exhaust system (I drove the car into deep snow that had hard ice under it and was worried I damaged something. I received a call midday telling me that my front brake pads were 10% and that the back was 50%. He told me sir, here we dont resurface discs, we just replace discs and pads with a lifetime warranty. He led me to believe he was changing me $450 for all four brakes. I okd the repair.

I received a call at the end of the day from the service department. They said they have good news and bad news. Good news was that the maintenance was done, the bad news was that they had scratched the front bumper. They said they needed to keep the car for 3 days to have it repaired (they replaced the whole front bumper assembly) and gave me a loaner in the mean time.

When I picked up the car this is what I found:
- The bumper was replaced as promised
- The coolant leak was checked, no leak
- The exhaust was never checked, and it wasnt even on the work order (I smell exhaust in the car when the defrost or air conditioning systems are on, which was the first reason I was writing this)
- Only the FRONT brakes were changed out, and it cost me an insane amount of $450 (which I just realized now by looking at the work order in detail, this just infuriates me to no end)
- I had a burnt out headlight bulb that was not burnt before I brought the car in for maintenance
- A belt is consistently whining

This is far from what I would call a proper maintenance.

This is what I firmly believe:
- They scratched the bumper BEFORE telling me about the brakes. They charged me an insane amount for the brakes to make up for the FREE bumper replacement they gave me (unless you can confirm that it costs $450 (before tax!) for front brake discs and pads?!)
- They do NOT complete all checks that are listed on the work order. If they did, my car would have FAILED the lighting systems check they supposedly did.

Needless to say, this very much disappointed me. Kudos to you for excellent cars, but something needs to be done about these people. I cant be the first person to complain about this dealership. I now fear that I would encounter the same kind of treatment elsewhere and that the only reason I havent before is that I havent been looking for problems. Unfortunately, Honda and Toyota are starting to look a little more interesting.

An extremely disappointed customer.
 
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wow. That sucks. Very well written letter. Im suprised you havent recieved a response, did you try calling Mazda about it?
I know when people have a problem with their vehicles after they have them serviced at our dealership, they complain to the service manager and he takes care of them.
But not all dealerships are the same. I hope you get this resolved soon.
 
MotegiMazdA said:
wow. That sucks. Very well written letter. Im suprised you havent recieved a response, did you try calling Mazda about it?
I know when people have a problem with their vehicles after they have them serviced at our dealership, they complain to the service manager and he takes care of them.
But not all dealerships are the same. I hope you get this resolved soon.
I took my time, anyone else reading this who feels like sending a letter can just use mine as a template. I haven't tried calling them yet. I wanted to wait another week to see what happens. If I don't hear anything I'll go through the normal complaint route whatever it is. But if the president in Canada isn't answering, I have no idea who else would really do anything about the situation. I mean I even sent copies of the work orders from both visits. I tried to be as fair as I could in the way I saw the situation. I thought about speaking with the service manager, but he was the guy who screwed over the angry guy I saw the first time I went for a servicing there. I figured I probably wouldn't get anywhere with them.

And yes, by no means am I saying that all dealerships are alike. I used to go to another one (Longueuil) and they were top notch, but I'm a 45 minute drive away from them.

I'll let everyone knows what happens when I have more information.

Thanks for the support.
 
lol. Orracle, the dealership itself probably not, but mazda should. You should see how Nissan comes down on the dealerships that are slackin. I know its not mazda but if a customer takes the time to do what he has done and sends it to Nissan...muah haha watch out.
 
the orracle said:
Do you honestly think they care? Let me tell you, they don't.
Maybe not, but if I didn't do it at all, they might not even know about it. Now if they choose to ignore it, people are in a position to know about it. When I've been screwed over, I do pass the information on. Yes I am only one person, but having a defeatist attitude will never make a situation any better.

If just one person on this board doesn't go to that dealer again, I'll be happy.
 
MotegiMazdA said:
lol. Orracle, the dealership itself probably not, but mazda should. You should see how Nissan comes down on the dealerships that are slackin. I know its not mazda but if a customer takes the time to do what he has done and sends it to Nissan...muah haha watch out.
That's what I'm hoping for... ;)
 
I feel you pain! I'm another pissed off customer at Mazda 2-20 on Des Sources. I'm about to do a complain as well. If you need any support, let me know! Hope we can make some noise about it!!!

Maybe I should share my experience about this dealership as well.

1. 45 minutes for a damn oil change where my car is ready after 25 minutes, they just take another 20 min enjoying their coffee before giving my keys back.
2. I need to replace a broken plastic under the car, they said they don't have stock and ordered for me. 2 weeks later, I bring in my car again, they actually ordered the wrong part! The plastic I need is always in stock, and they installed a stupid bar which I never asked for it. I'm not paying for that thing and they just have to uninstall it.
3. I made an appointement over the phone, I arrive there and they said I didn't make any appointement! Fuxk you!!! They look at me like I drop in their dealership for no reason and they believe it's my mistake.
4. My stock Kenwood radio has problems like all MP3's z828. The radio automatically shut off for no reason and the display is all messed up. I asked to replace it. They checked the radio and say it's still in working condition, no exchange.
5. I left my car in their garage and ask for lift to get me home. They said they're not providing this service. I have no choice, but walked half hour to get home. WTF!!!
6. My radio is dead now, they finally agreed to replace it, takes them half month to get it and I'm still waiting for the bushing.


I'm looking for another dealership for service after repalce the radio and the bushing.
 
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Go for it Sky. Maybe if they get enough complaints something will happen!
Try to find others who have had similar experiences and have them complain as well. You guys shouldnt have to deal with their carelessness. I hope it turns out for the both of you
 
SKY said:
I feel you pain! I'm another pissed off customer at Mazda 2-20 on Des Sources. I'm about to do a complain as well. If you need any support, let me know! Hope we can make some noise about it!!!

Maybe I should share my experience about this dealership as well.

1. 45 minutes for a damn oil change where my car is ready after 25 minutes, they just take another 20 min enjoying their coffee before giving my keys back.
2. I need to replace a broken plastic under the car, they said they don't have stock and ordered for me. 2 weeks later, I bring in my car again, they actually ordered the wrong part! The plastic I need is always in stock, and they installed a stupid bar which I never asked for it. I'm not paying for that thing and they just have to uninstall it.
3. I made an appointement over the phone, I arrive there and they said I didn't make any appointement! Fuxk you!!! They look at me like I drop in their dealership for no reason and they believe it's my mistake.
4. My stock Kenwood radio has problems like all MP3's z828. The radio automatically shut off for no reason and the display is all messed up. I asked to replace it. They checked the radio and say it's still in working condition, no exchange.
5. I left my car in their garage and ask for lift to get me home. They said they're not providing this service. I have no choice, but walked half hour to get home. WTF!!!
6. My radio is dead now, they finally agreed to replace it, takes them half month to get it and I'm still waiting for the bushing.


I'm looking for another dealership for service after repalce the radio and the bushing.

man that sucks, those guys are complete knobs, they really just don't care about the customer. that's what bothers me the most. i'm keeping my ear to the ground about people who've had trouble.

i'm going to wait another week for an answer, if i don't get anything i might be contacting you and we can complain together. ;)
 
MotegiMazdA said:
Go for it Sky. Maybe if they get enough complaints something will happen!
Try to find others who have had similar experiences and have them complain as well. You guys shouldnt have to deal with their carelessness. I hope it turns out for the both of you

yeah i agree, the more complaints they get, hopefully something would be done, i think even Enry had trouble there, I don't remember, I have to give him a call and see what he says.
 
djstan said:
yeah i agree, the more complaints they get, hopefully something would be done, i think even Enry had trouble there, I don't remember, I have to give him a call and see what he says.
I remember he told me that he is pissed with 2-20 as well and I think he probably not going there anymore with his speed. (uhm)
 
Well, looks like orrracle was right, they don't care at all. I've attached the response.
I know it's blasphemous, but I don't think I'll ever be buying a Mazda again, this is just the last straw. I've had it with asshole companies thinking once you've paid them that they owe you not one iota of customer service afterwards. I mean they really have the gaul to actually say that $450 for front brake replacements (discs and pads only mind you) with a "lifetime warranty" are ok.

Either they don't care, or they're covering up the dealers massive screw up.

Whatever. Just don't ever go to this dealer.
 

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oh... and they gave me this piece of s**** too, anyone interested in buying it for $450? i'll even throw in a lifetime warranty.
 

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SKY said:
I feel you pain! I'm another pissed off customer at Mazda 2-20 on Des Sources. I'm about to do a complain as well. If you need any support, let me know! Hope we can make some noise about it!!!
Let me give you my chronology on the "ecu fix saga". I heard some peeps were waltzing into their dealerships and they were doing it no problems, so I figured, hell yeah, bye bye hesitation!
  1. ECU fix comes out for mazdaspeed.
  2. I show up at dealership with exact precise information step by step.
  3. Was told "there is no update fo your car". factually 100%. as sure as the sun rises. I say it's in the states, and it's the same car, and other dealerships in canada have done it!! Was told "nonsense, states are TOTALLY different". I hear american mazdasepeds on uranium fuel and ride by magnetic levitation.
  4. I have to CALL MAZDA CANADA to b****, cause I was getting -nowhere- with my dealership.
  5. With sufficient bitching from mazda, my dealership said sure, come by, we'll take a look--they were patronizing me, because according to them, it still didn't exist!!!
  6. I get a call, 5 min later, as some mechanic overheard the guy speaking to me on the phone and said "oh yeah I know of that... there's a fix". ALL OF A SUDDEN it exists. The ECU fix was spontaneously willed into existance! A miracle of physics I tell you. I get an appt to get it installed.
  7. This is the best part. I show up at the APPT. Figure I'm gonna wait while it's done. I wait 90 MINUTES (took the afternoon off work). Guess what I was told. "Yeah... sorry.. we don't ACTUALLY have the files downloaded you're gonna have to come back".
  8. FINALLY I go back and they apply the fix.
Seriously though, I can understand that some car owners are TOOLS, but it's the customer service guy's job to give the customer the benefit of the doubt and always be curteous and at least give the impression of looking into a customer's concern instead of discarding it as the nonsensical ramblings of an idiot. I ****HATE**** being treated like an idiot.

But I've learnt to let things slide. I've come to accept apathy and ineptitude as a constant that is widespread through nearly all sectors of the customer service industry. To be 100% honest 2-20 got some new guy which seemed more sympathetic. But really it's too late for me, I've developed somewhat of a dislike for that place.
 
Nav, +1 points for writing the letter to the President of Mazda Canada and not customer relations. That's hilarious.

Also, one more thing. I would suggest you go see them and tell them to adjust your bill in light of the misunderstanding. In other words, take back their worthless lifetime warranty!

Front pads are like 50-60 $.
http://ma-parts.drivewire.com/Buy-Mazda/Protege/Brake-Pads.html

Rotors are like 150$ the pair max (you can get a pair of crossed drilled rotors for 65USD on ebay).

Basically you kind of got swindled. They should have explained the lifetime warranty adds considerable cost to it, and that it is optional. But, like any extended warranty, they bank on the fact that you'll get the warranty, then probably never ask (you sell the car, or forget about the warranty, etc...)
 
Damn. Im sorry to hear that they did jack about it....I didnt think they would want a dealership representing them like that. Well maybe they will continue to f* up and more poeple will complain..maybe THEN mazda will research into this and come to a solution with the owner of that particular store. Maybe you should complain to him as well..
 
hey djstan, i got that rubber dashboard thingy too by mail about 2 weeks ago. its nice when im in traffic but as soon as i take corners a little bit faster, my cell phone always flies so it sucks after all

I also heard horror stories concerning Mazda 2-20 pretty much like yours. I bought a 2003 P5 from Spinelli in lachine back in 2002 and had good service. There was one guy working for the service department that would look at me like i was some kind of retard when i was talking to him, but other than that, they were ok, but i never had anything major with the car. Now, i brought it in at Albi Mazda in mascouche in february and left with a Mazdaspeed ... i have an appointment thursday this week for an oil change and i also told the guy i have clunk in the rear suspension. He was just writting down what i was telling him and didnt comment on anything ... so i guess ill see how much they'll cooperate and let you guys know.

List of things they have to take care of this week: oil change, fix clunk, i have a huge "toc" noise sometimes when i hit a pot hole, seems to come from the front-left wheel/suspension and my rear-right window doesn't work.

we'll see how long it takes them to fix all that and how good of a job they do.
 

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