CommieSpeed
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Time to attain the ability to comprehend humor, "Redneck".mspdfreak said:
Why is everyone so hesitant to press the limits?
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CommieSpeed
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hehehe, nope, I don't even really like Sublime.Heathen23 said:
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no people get warranty work denied b/c they let themselves get schooled by the dealership. They say your warranty is void and you just take it and dont fight it. SEMA is there exactly for that reason. They require that the dealership have factual conclusive proof of owner abuse to void a warranty, otherwise by federal law the dealership has to repair your car under said warranty. Secondly, warranty claims have nothing to do with insurance rates, get your facts straight. Insurance rates are high b/c 16 year old punks think they can drive 90 down a crowded road and still keep control of the car while its raining. Warranty claims are a set liability in the Companies budget, so when you get to college you can take some financing courses and understand that Mazda has millions sitting in an account just to fix warranty claims. If they dont use it all up, it goes to CEO bonuses...dont believe me? Go read the 2002 Mazda Financial Report. For anyone who cant read it, I'll be more than happy to obtain the exact numbers for Warranty Liabilities for the 2001-2002 fiscal year. Now finally, my post flamed no one, nor did it say to go about being stupid about modfications, it was a simple and polite question, and I expect the same treatment when responding to this thread. I fully support everyone stating their opinions but please lets be a little nicer about this, you have nothing to gain by ripping on the internet...
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I didn't rip on you. Can't speak for otheres. I just mentioned it was sketchy.DSMConvert said:
As for fighting it; Your car will sit at mazda for months not running while you get a lawyer and HOPE you win. That's just not reasonable for most people. If you break it, you are going to have to take care of it yourself in most situations. That's just the reality.
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DSMConvert- If you use aftermarket parts such as a boost controller you have to splice into the vacuum line going to the wastegate, this sends a red flag to the tech. working on your car (trying to figure out why there is a connecting rod hanging out the side of the block). He sees this and will stop working on the car until the rep. comes and investigates. It's not that the tech. is looking to screw the customer over, it's because there has to be a reason the motor blew, and its his job to find it.
-The reason I said this is because I went through this today w/ a gti with a blown motor.......I felt bad because I know what its like to modify a car. However owners of the MSP's I work on understand (or at least I hope they do) that if you modify the car and blow it up it's your fault (within reason).
- I am a Mazda tech. and I would never even think about expecting Mazda to pay for a motor that I blew up because I've been pushing the limits. I have even bought another 2.0l for when this one blows up.
-For you to say that you would expect mazda to pay for a motor that you blew by doing stupid s*** just shows what kind of person you are.
Just my .02
-The reason I said this is because I went through this today w/ a gti with a blown motor.......I felt bad because I know what its like to modify a car. However owners of the MSP's I work on understand (or at least I hope they do) that if you modify the car and blow it up it's your fault (within reason).
- I am a Mazda tech. and I would never even think about expecting Mazda to pay for a motor that I blew up because I've been pushing the limits. I have even bought another 2.0l for when this one blows up.
-For you to say that you would expect mazda to pay for a motor that you blew by doing stupid s*** just shows what kind of person you are.
Just my .02
John-the main problem with me wanting to push this car to it's limit's are,the fact that i don't have alot of cash floating around to rebuild whatever it is that i may break! I mean the way i see it is if i do happen to break something and it is my fault "Not a mazda defect" then i will pay out of pocket to fix it myself! I'm not really the type to try and "get over" on people anyone for that matter.
But,i didn't really buy this car to be a beast i knew that the FS engine's are not to good of a starting point to build a all out power house of a car! if you do a little more research and see how many people have tryed to do what your trying to do now by "testing the limit's" of this engine you, might see that, that might not be the smartest thing to do. By no mean's am i saying that you shouldn't try what ever it is you want to try with this engine but, just be careful because like the saying i've alway's heard "You gotta pay to play" is mostly true!
In time i will have more supporting modification's then i might be more willing to test the limit's but for now i'll have to stick to basic bolt-on's.
Keep doing what your doing and let me know how it turn's out!(evil) (rockon)
But,i didn't really buy this car to be a beast i knew that the FS engine's are not to good of a starting point to build a all out power house of a car! if you do a little more research and see how many people have tryed to do what your trying to do now by "testing the limit's" of this engine you, might see that, that might not be the smartest thing to do. By no mean's am i saying that you shouldn't try what ever it is you want to try with this engine but, just be careful because like the saying i've alway's heard "You gotta pay to play" is mostly true!
In time i will have more supporting modification's then i might be more willing to test the limit's but for now i'll have to stick to basic bolt-on's.
Keep doing what your doing and let me know how it turn's out!(evil) (rockon)
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I hate commie pinko apple pie hating mofos.
back up here a sec...
when a stupid exhaust system can cost $1k, and engine management can cost $1k+, and suspension work can easily bust that much, and the other intake/exhaust/turbo stuff might be $2k more, wouldn't you expect someone who's pushing their msp like this to be able to plop down $2k for a new motor if he needed it?
I'm certainly not able to afford all the mods, so I can't afford the a engine either, but if I could, I'd just buy a damn STi.
when a stupid exhaust system can cost $1k, and engine management can cost $1k+, and suspension work can easily bust that much, and the other intake/exhaust/turbo stuff might be $2k more, wouldn't you expect someone who's pushing their msp like this to be able to plop down $2k for a new motor if he needed it?
I'm certainly not able to afford all the mods, so I can't afford the a engine either, but if I could, I'd just buy a damn STi.
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