Why cant our community be like this?!?!

[jbiird317]

i guarantee they dont... their domain is BANNED...

and theres no way that anyone from mazdausa could see your forums? at all..... hmmmmmm methinks you're making a bogus claim here

 

[Darksun280]

Here's the quick version of the Mazda Warranty...


http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=shoppingToolsWarranty&bhcp=1

It pretty much says...normal use......So I'm sorry about the expenses you all have to take in your own pocket, but it is and should have been clear that most of these mods would void the Mazda warranty..


Maybe the Manufacturers...ie COBB, ETS, and the like should be the ones that warranty their products to not destroy your engine....Shouldn't you really be pissed off at the companies making the aftermarket parts, and all the profits, that destroy your perfectly fine engine in the first place...


I think you've got you panties in a bunch over the wrong set of issues...perhaps with a bit more RnD, the aftermarket companies would realize that a CAI on the MS3 would cause problems with the turbo....

LAWL!!!! My motor mount broke and dropped the motor. Should Cobb have planed for this in the testing of there SRI?

 

[Darksun280]

Actually I think in the instructions at the end it did say that use of there intakes causes motors to be dropped and axles snapped. Page 4

 

[jbiird317]

I say get rid of all the vendors then. Why have them selling parts on this site if you know the people buying them are at risk. Or at least make a big ass disclaimer in each vendor section saying "Buying parts from this vendor and installing them on your vehicle will void your warranty no questions asked. Be fore warned before purchasing"

This is absurd, you are clearly just being bitter now. There is a disclaimer saying that installign these parts MAY void manufacturer warranty. I promise you that every quality manufacturer will have such a disclaimer somewhere on their product or website.

 

[Darksun280]

and theres no way that anyone from mazdausa could see your forums? at all..... hmmmmmm methinks you're making a bogus claim here

Doesn't matter if they can see it. They still legally can't use anything seen on that site against any of its members like this one does to theirs......

 

[jbiird317]

Doesn't matter if they can see it. They still legally can't use anything seen on that site against any of its members like this one does to theirs......

and what makes that so much different than this site? enlighten me.....

just cuz you guys are convinced that mazda pays off this site does not make it fact.....

 

[ProtoType5]

My point was not personally directed at your situation, just at this flame fest in general...Seems like no-one in here can even consider being on the other side of this equation...

Seriously, I'm sorry you got voided...I think that in some cases it's BS....Could have towed it home or to storage first...if that was the only mod, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

 

[Darksun280]

This is absurd, you are clearly just being bitter now. There is a disclaimer saying that installign these parts MAY void manufacturer warranty. I promise you that every quality manufacturer will have such a disclaimer somewhere on their product or website.

I'm not bitter I make more then enough money to pay that 3100 to fix everything. hell I went out paid for the car then went and got a PS3 right after. Matter fact I like not having a warranty I was holding back before but now im having a blasty blast with the car. Point is its the principle of the situation. I had an intake the mount cracked I got voided and got a letter in the mail saying that the intake was the cause of the failure because it made me want to abuse the car. Yup that about sums up what the letter said.

 

[ProtoType5]

Dude, you are bitter. But you're RICH!!!

 

[Darksun280]

and what makes that so much different than this site? enlighten me.....

just cuz you guys are convinced that mazda pays off this site does not make it fact.....

the fact is they DID use information on this site against me. The kicker is they got mad I posted pictures of my broken mount online not even realizing the original poster had the EXACT failure I did and he was a full bolt on MS3 and got covered. Me with my Cobb SRI was walked on. what made that guy so special and not me. Maybe if I had more money they would have covered me.....

 

[Darksun280]

Dude, you are bitter. But you're RICH!!!

Yeah im pretty sexy too.

 

[Darksun280]

My point was not personally directed at your situation, just at this flame fest in general...Seems like no-one in here can even consider being on the other side of this equation...

Seriously, I'm sorry you got voided...I think that in some cases it's BS....Could have towed it home or to storage first...if that was the only mod, could have saved you a lot of headaches.

yeah s*** happens but I honestly didn't think they would void me for an intake when they sell one themselves. I said those exact words out loud. Before the tow truck got there. I guess I was wrong cause the letter they sent me said different. And why should I tow my self somewhere else I didn't do anything wrong so why pay to tow to newyork. Thats the whole guilty until proven innocent idea im not trying to indulge with Mazda USA. its the other way around. Hence why that magson moss act gets walked all over...

 

[jbiird317]

I'm not bitter I make more then enough money to pay that 3100 to fix everything. hell I went out paid for the car then went and got a PS3 right after. Matter fact I like not having a warranty I was holding back before but now im having a blasty blast with the car. Point is its the principle of the situation. I had an intake the mount cracked I got voided and got a letter in the mail saying that the intake was the cause of the failure because it made me want to abuse the car. Yup that about sums up what the letter said.

im very proud that you have a high paying profession but that was not my point. Don't irrationally criticize this site's practices or make false claims without having a bit of fact to back it up.

as for your unique situation with mazda - it really sucks that mazda came on here and found your posts and used them against you. however this was not the fault of mazdas247, it was your fault. Same as if my warranty were voided it would be my fault. And yes, even though i too have the money, shelling out $3000 would still suck. No one is trying to take that away from you. I would love to see a copy of the letter though, seems like a few things are being omitted.

 

[Darksun280]

im very proud that you have a high paying profession but that was not my point. Don't irrationally criticize this site's practices or make false claims without having a bit of fact to back it up.

as for your unique situation with mazda - it really sucks that mazda came on here and found your posts and used them against you. however this was not the fault of mazdas247, it was your fault. Same as if my warranty were voided it would be my fault. And yes, even though i too have the money, shelling out $3000 would still suck. No one is trying to take that away from you. I would love to see a copy of the letter though, seems like a few things are being omitted.

yeah that freaking letter omitted alot of things too. You wouldn't believe it even If I did post it. it said voided for after market parts on the vehicle. It was like 5 lines long and most of it was intro..... I really thought after all that bull s*** they would say they voided it for abuse but they spent all that time trying to get me to admit i beat on the car then they send a letter basically saying my intake and or BPV voided my warranty.

 

[occschemguy]

Are these all of your mods? If so, don't you think it more likely that THEY are the cause of your voided warranty? Do you really think you should have a warranty with all of the work you've done?

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2918564&postcount=85

first here is another guy who sepened info from the forums http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123665485&highlight=mazda+employees

yes the post was in january 07 and i took the car to the dealer for service in feb. 07 and said Mazda had clasified my car as w1 do to my posting on this forum and even sent him a print out from this forum of my post. i at that time posted a thread about mazda employees and banning them and got flamed for it.I tried to get antoine to delete my post and wouldnt Hmmm i wonder why not? oh ya but he deleted the thread on banning mazda employees.

 

[NCZ13]

wow this thread turned into a clusterfuck.

im going to have to side with the people that say your s*** out of luck. while it wasnt your intake per say that caused motor mount failure, there is no denying that you were driving your car hard.

the magnuson moss act covers you, but not in a case like this.

anyone who think s dealership would void a warranty on the engine over an aftermarket head unit is just being immature. you know that a head unit and the engine arent related at all. so its pointless to make stupid comments like that.

 

[tunersteve]

Ok, I think you're looking at the wrong picture right now guys. Do you have any evidence at all to back this up?....NO. All there is right now is reasonable speculation that someone posted on here and you all go buck wild about it. It's like a bunch of little girls at the bus stop in middle school. If you can't prove it, then why bring it up in the first place.

Here's an example:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123702905

The guy blew his engine, but wants to roll over. Members (including mods) are in there telling him 'No, go get your warranty claim' since he had no issues and kept the car running properly. Even Ken, who could have sold him a new engine, was trying to get him something and went above and beyond the scope that most people would consider reasonable.

Just one last thing. Remember when you mod a car, weigh the risks and rewards, and make sure that you're willing to accept the responsibility of those risks if they do arise.

 

[occschemguy]

first here is another guy who sepened info from the forums http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123665485&highlight=mazda+employees

Statement by antoine in thread -

I'm going to e-mail my contacts at MNAO and see if they can help to resolve this situation.

yes the post was in january 07 and i took the car to the dealer for service in feb. 07 and said Mazda had clasified my car as w1 do to my posting on this forum and even sent him a print out from this forum of my post. i at that time posted a thread about mazda employees and banning them and got flamed for it.I tried to get antoine to delete my post and wouldnt Hmmm i wonder why not? oh ya but he deleted the thread on banning mazda employees.

 

[Darksun280]

wow this thread turned into a clusterfuck.

im going to have to side with the people that say your s*** out of luck. while it wasnt your intake per say that caused motor mount failure, there is no denying that you were driving your car hard.

the magnuson moss act covers you, but not in a case like this.

anyone who think s dealership would void a warranty on the engine over an aftermarket head unit is just being immature. you know that a head unit and the engine arent related at all. so its pointless to make stupid comments like that.

So my intake and my motor mount our directly related? Do you hear yourself? So since i own an intake i was driving my car hard? does this apply to all members who decided to purchase an intake be it a mazda one or outside vendor?

 

[NCZ13]

from what i remember earlier it was stated you posted time slips from the track..

now im pretty sure that if your driving your car at the track... chances are you arent shifting at 2.5 rpms...

the dealership probably saw your intake, saw the broken mount and used the combination of the two as a scapegoat to not to the work. quit your bitching annd your whining. your arguing with people who are sympathizing with your situation.