Who makes the supercharger for the P5

SpicyMchaggis said:
you also have to remember something, your bolt-ons will drastically increase their effectiveness!. For example. A buddy of mine has an SVT Focus. She has had it for about a year now. She just got a INJEN cold-air..I'm not sure of the brand. Anyway, that alone showed substantial gains! block-back exhaust paired with an intake would show substantial gains.. Engine management and proper tuning would send your gains through the roof..remember..its not what you buy for your motor..its how you tune it..

Now that's odd. I have always heard that a short ram is best with an s/c. With a CAI it takes longer to bring the air in due to the longer intake tube.
Even though the air will be warmer, it will get there quicker.
 
deckedoutmp5 said:
you only want the JRSC on a svt if you get it for a normal focus they suck BAD. turbo tom in the man though.


plus our mazdas and SC, blah, go turbo. area 51's is just a centrafugal, belt driven hell i dont think it even kicks in full until 5.

Turbo Tom is crazy. :D What numbers is he pushing in his now??

And his kit is the s*** too. 290hp/287tq at the wheel on an SVT Focus.
 
Monstermile said:
Turbo Tom is crazy. :D What numbers is he pushing in his now??

And his kit is the s*** too. 290hp/287tq at the wheel on an SVT Focus.

just tuning a svt he has got up to 350 bhp that is with stock internals. he also just got an mr2 to like 400 somthing with stock internals. hes awesome. and i think he just tuned all motor a focus to like 250 and some cam work.
 
I'm interested in a s/c for the p5. I've been waiting for a thread like this for a while... :) I'd want to know the price/timeline/specs before committing to anything.
 
Diligent Fish said:
I'm interested in a s/c for the p5. I've been waiting for a thread like this for a while... :) I'd want to know the price/timeline/specs before committing to anything.

you dont want to SC a p5... trust us. ;)
 
well, how about a turbo and a sc? both minor but give major results, some cars have this combo
 
i dont know but in the past i have 1990 sc thunderbird and i only change the sc pulley for a little one and it boost from 8psi to 12 to 13 psi with only that change and a flowmaster cat back and that car is a lot of fun.
just only a comment
 
Grand Prix GTP and Lightning are fun to drive too. True they are V6 and V8, but compared to their stock conterparts they are alot more fun.
 
basically, once your using a supercharger..the temp of the air matters little..basically the more air the better..i.e on a non-efi car..like the trans-am..we had 3 demon 4-barrel carbs through the cowl..just gulped in air..on an EFI car..who knows..if it doesn't blow up first..
 
Monstermile said:
Price range can go a higher or lower than a turbo depending on what is included. And what is better is a matter of opinion, taste and what you are looking for. People argue all day, every day on car forums about which one is better. My personal preference is for an s/c just for the simple fact that you can get good amount of torque without heavy engine modification. I'll take massive torque over super high hp any day.

Has anyone bothered looking at the torque curve for the Flyin' Protege turbo?

There is a lot of torque there off of a turbo.
 
SpicyMchaggis said:
basically, once your using a supercharger..the temp of the air matters little..basically the more air the better..i.e on a non-efi car..like the trans-am..we had 3 demon 4-barrel carbs through the cowl..just gulped in air..on an EFI car..who knows..if it doesn't blow up first..

The air temp in the manifold always matters, regardless if its a blower or turbo...
 
Like with horsepower, torque NUMBERS don't matter so much; It's the torque curve. The FM turbo kit for the Protege pops the torque up by about 65 ft/lbs, but if you look at the dyno, the torque hits it's peak at 3500 RPM, when the turbo spools in all the way. While that's not like a drag car, where it spools in fully at, say, 6.5k RPM, it's still not right from off the line. =) The if you look at the baseline dyno, too, you'll notice the car is producing 108ft/lbs, but it starts at under 2k, and stays nice and flat 'till 4.5 - 5k, where it drops off. A supercharger, due to it's nature, creates a more flat torque 'curve'. =) It's nice to have that, for sure.

But then again, if it were all about torque, we'd all be driving cars with electric motors. ;) The torque curve is... Flat, to say the least. Hehee. Just a few thoughts for those who tout the idea of turbos over supers. They're simply a different animal.

Personally, I'd like to go with a supercharger, if just for the fact that not everyone has done it. =)

Another thought, though... I beleive the JR supercharger bolts up to the lower intake manifold... If that's the case, I do know the lower intake manifold on the Miata would bolt up to a FS-DE 2.0 block, but I'm not sure of the extra valves in the intake manifold, but the bolt pattern is the same on the head. =) Maybe it's an option, but who knows!
 
But then again, if it were all about torque, we'd all be driving cars with electric motors. ;) The torque curve is...

yup, there is 2 of those electric half cars from germeny here in kansas city that actaully drive them and can park vertical to parralell. they have 6 batteries on the bottom thats why they dont flip being the size of a go kart... and yes they raced them against a viper venom in a show on tv, raod and track or somthign i cant remember, but the batteries kicked the vipers ass off the line for a very good distance also...

very good point flatblack.
 
I would be interested in a s/c for the P5.

I've been told thier life expectancy is far greater than a turbo.
 
Superchargers and turbochargers alike can be damaged by simple negligence, as can most parts of a car.

Quite a few owners with superchargers, I've seen, don't realize the superchargers have thier own reservoir in some cases. In another case, I've seen one supercharger with a destroyed bearing and a bent spool shaft, simply from an overtightened belt! So, a simple maintainence regimine is best to make any type of F/I last longer.

As far as with turbos, I've seen more coked up turbos than I care to remember! The previous owner of my RX-7 Turbo II ended up destroying the turbocharger after a mere 90k miles, and when I pulled it off to replace it, it was TOTALLY coked up in the cartridge, and was poorly cooled before shutting the engine down, as the exhaust housing for the turbo had cracks all along it, and the intake housing was in hardly usable shape, simply from heat stress.

A turbo timer solves most of the heating problems with a turbo, and simple mantainence and good habits, as with any car, will extend the life of a supercharger, but is crucial to any type of car, really.

So, don't be scared off of either turbo or superchargers; Go the way that you want with it, and enjoy it, but for the sake of future owners of the car, and for your own sanity, take care of the car! You'll find you'll learn to appreciate it more in the longrun.
 

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