While breaking in my car, i over revved... and i'm only at 460miles..

[Mike R]

I've hit the rev limiter at least twice, it's around 71-7200. The only way to overrev and hurt ther motor is downshifting at high speeds into a gear that is too low, the engine is forced past the redline.

 

[Mazda P5 driver]

I've hit the rev limiter at least twice, it's around 71-7200. The only way to overrev and hurt ther motor is downshifting at high speeds into a gear that is too low, the engine is forced past the redline.

HA, on the sport shift aka auto, it will NOT let you down shift if too high of a rev in gear.

How do I know? I was seing what the max speed was in second to drop down to first. 25mph is what I got, even though first tops out around 40. On the dash indicater where the M is it will flash if you try it, and are too high.

Is it just me or is 3rd and 4th nearly the same? I really believe it is and they should spread it out, it would have given us better revs at 80 mph.

 

[spazspike]

That's my biggest complaint with the Protege5 automatic transmission is the lack of 5th gear. I realize that a 5 speed 2.0 4-cyclinder in an automatic transmission is virtually nonexisitent... but I still think it sucks. Going 80mph at 3700rpm is a lot of unwanted strain on my car even with the torque convertor.

 

[Matthew]

i have not payed attention and hit the rev limiter twice

 

[hihoslva]

That's my biggest complaint with the Protege5 automatic transmission is the lack of 5th gear. I realize that a 5 speed 2.0 4-cyclinder in an automatic transmission is virtually nonexisitent... but I still think it sucks. Going 80mph at 3700rpm is a lot of unwanted strain on my car even with the torque convertor.

The 2.0L engine does not make enough grunt to warrant a higher gear ratio, not in the auto, and not in the manual.

This topic has come up so many times.

If there was another gear, the auto owners would be complaining about no passing power, and having to kick-down 2 full gears to get any grunt, and the lag in doing so.

And the manual owners would be pissed that planting the gas at 70 MPH doesn't get the car moving any faster.

And we'd all be complaining that gas mileage is worse than it is now, because the engine would be bogged down in 5th (auto) / 6th (manual).

In truth, your car would experience FAR more strain with another gear in the box than it does from revving a little high on the highways.

~HH

 

[pingdum]

The 2.0L engine does not make enough grunt to warrant a higher gear ratio, not in the auto, and not in the manual.

This topic has come up so many times.

If there was another gear, the auto owners would be complaining about no passing power, and having to kick-down 2 full gears to get any grunt, and the lag in doing so.

And the manual owners would be pissed that planting the gas at 70 MPH doesn't get the car moving any faster.

And we'd all be complaining that gas mileage is worse than it is now, because the engine would be bogged down in 5th (auto) / 6th (manual).

In truth, your car would experience FAR more strain with another gear in the box than it does from revving a little high on the highways.

~HH

(thumb) (lol) (thumb)

 

[Matthew]

i merged two of the same basic thread...please attempt to refrain from doing this in the future wayne

thanks, you local p5 mod

 

[Mazda P5 driver]

The 2.0L engine does not make enough grunt to warrant a higher gear ratio, not in the auto, and not in the manual.

This topic has come up so many times.

If there was another gear, the auto owners would be complaining about no passing power, and having to kick-down 2 full gears to get any grunt, and the lag in doing so.

And the manual owners would be pissed that planting the gas at 70 MPH doesn't get the car moving any faster.

And we'd all be complaining that gas mileage is worse than it is now, because the engine would be bogged down in 5th (auto) / 6th (manual).

In truth, your car would experience FAR more strain with another gear in the box than it does from revving a little high on the highways.

~HH

Not enough grunt? WTF are you talking about? My old Contour revved much lower than this car and had less power. I really don't think that is too much to ask. Have you also noticed that Saturns are coming with 5 speed autos? Yeah, a whole whopping 140hp with a 5 speed auto. We are talking about highway cruising and tell my why all other 5 speed autos on the market run just fine? Even the Audi with 150 hp back in the day had a 5 speed auto, and I know that ZF never broke.

Yes I have made only a few posts, with crap like this I will probably stop. That is the Manual owners to deal with, they do have a 5 speed, us autos do not. Last i checked regular autos aren't sequential. I can cruise at 20 and drop it and it will go to the lowes gear from the 4th. So you tell me wtf is going on. Not only, but the car only has 130 hp. What kind of passing power do you expect? Tell my why the M5 had a faster 1\4 skipping second gear? Yes it was faster to do a 1-3 shift instead of a 1-2-3. But by your logic that puts more strain on an engine.

HAHAHA, you make me laugh. How is there strain if the engine isn't revved up? You mean a car will actually have to use its so called power band? Oh, how nice. Right now I can tell you my Contour had better gas mileage than this thing, and it is because at 80 the revs are just too high and 3rd and 4th are just too close.

Umm yeah, nice try. I have wasted enough time.

 

[hihoslva]

I have wasted enough time.

You certainly have.

If you want to get pissed off about it, that's fine by me. Blow smoke out of your nose for all I ******* care.

It is not about how MUCH power, but WHERE it is in the powerBAND that even you speak of.

By not having enough grunt, I meant not enough LOW END grunt.

The 2.0 is a DOG unless it is revving. I've owned pedal-powered bicycles that were faster off the line than my auto P5. DOG DOG DOG.

And YES there WOULD be more strain on the engine, because it would be revving FAR too low in its powerband to be effective, and every time we owners gave it the juice on the highway, it would bog the engine and performace would suck.

Your M5 example is so ridiculous. The reason it's faster in a 1-3 shift is because it is a POWERFUL car and shifting takes TIME!!! If the car is ballsy enough to overcome any potential under-revving and bogging, skipping a shift will work.

Under your theory, our automatics should do the same thing. And the manual shift cars should do a 1-to-4 tip-tronic-style shift like the Corvette.

Sheesh - the discussion is not a horsepower one anyway - start talking torque, and at what revs it peaks out, what the curve looks like.

Please - get real. Even in the Special Edition Miata, which was lighter AND more powerful, every reviewer called the 6-speed manual a waste, and that 5 gears is enough.

You've wasted your time because you don't know what you're talking about. If you don't like it, you shouldn't have bought it. And if you didn't test drive it first, that's your mistake.

~HH

 

[mountjonas]

Going 80mph at 3700rpm is a lot of unwanted strain on my car even with the torque convertor.

my 5spd also does 80 at around 3700 rpm.

 

[Mike R]

Another .02 from me.

3700 is a hair more than half of the rev limit of the motor. It's not that bad. Also it's in the power band of the motor.

Does anybody actually look at the gear ratio's in a 6 speed? It's not like 6th gear is a double overdrive. It's about the same as 5th gear would be, maybe slightly more of an overdrive. Instead of 4th being 1:1, 5th is 1:1. It wouldn't be that much different, you'd just have to shift more often. Might actually accelerate quicker off the line though.

 

[reeves_toy]

you don't have to break them in like on a motorcycle the engines are broke-in before they are shippied to the dealer.

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

I've actually heard you shouldn't break in an engine at low RPMs becasue it will wear to that specifiv line, say 3000 rpm, then when you do go past, it stresses your engine. The best way to 'break' in an engine is to drive it normally, no redlines, just normal driving. Don't race it till like 600 mile though, but also don't baby it too much. That's my personal opinion though, and it has always worked for me, My old car lasted 12 years, when most of the exact same make died after like 7 or 8.

 

[jasper5.0]

I don't know about you, but I got my car to drive and I spun the tires right out of the show room leaving a nice black mark for the salesmen to clean up! I did not do a "break in" I now have 11k on it and still drive it like I stole it!
yes the dealership was PISSED about the black mark on there nice white floor. But you know what they say "customers always right"