whats a good engine management?
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Actually you don't require a WBO2. It all depends on what condition your stock one is in. A lot of people have the stock narrowband O2 sensor right in line with their WBO2. Mine is as close to dead on as you can get. But the WB helps. MPNick is the only one who sells them, no more vendors, so other then a used one, you will have to go through MPNick. And IMO, is the best way because you get all the support you want from him. He will still give you support if you get a used one, but he wont go out of his way like he does on new sales. But the forum can give all you would need also. I've been running it since the beginning so I know it pretty well. There are a bunch of other people that know it very well also, so support should not be an issue.
Tuning is simple once you get the hang of it. Add numbers for fuel, take numbers away for less fuel. The trickiest part is tuning the switch point, but that is even easier now with the newer turbo modules.(thumb)
Tuning is simple once you get the hang of it. Add numbers for fuel, take numbers away for less fuel. The trickiest part is tuning the switch point, but that is even easier now with the newer turbo modules.(thumb)
mazdaspeed75
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Switch point on new tm is easy 1-2 lbs of boost is were mine is set and that is were you tune it out if you are getting to much fuel . I have worked off of Sams map from the begginning . That got me started . Now i have alot of extra injector numbers and the timming is and still seems fine for my setup . Not to hard.
Switch point on new tm is easy 1-2 lbs of boost is were mine is set and that is were you tune it out if you are getting to much fuel . I have worked off of Sams map from the begginning . That got me started . Now i have alot of extra injector numbers and the timming is and still seems fine for my setup . Not to hard.
i'm guessing the kit doesn't come with a wideband o2? probably not since that would be convenient...and i have a mbc which i would like to get rid of, does this come with a built in boost controller by chance???? probably not again since that would also be convenient. and i since i have never really done any tuning at all, do you tune this with a laptop?
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He has 600 cc injectors now. H ehasnt dynoed witht the 7 1/2 psi he was running . The dyno numbers for his kit which was a lovefab kit siad around 320 to 350 whp . I really dont think he was breaking much over 300 whp . NOw with the new setup 2mm headgasket and 14 psi He says guy are detting 400 whp . Not sure dont know much about the s2000 . I know one thing its fast as s*** right now . The only thing is my car feels more tqy then his .MPNick said:
so what does it take to install an mpi tuner??? is it something i can do myself? i just wanna know so if i do with this one, do i gotta find someone to install it for me. i'd rather do it myself if i can just to save me some money, but i guess if i have to find someone to do it, i better start saving now
ttlkaos said:
If you can wire in a radio, you can wire this in. Requires basic soldering skills to install it properly. You will also need to tune it, so if you don't want to tune, don't bother. Tuning isn't that hard once you get the hang of it, but you do need a laptop to tune the thing. All the wiring is done at the ECU, except for a power source which is under the center console on the drivers side next to the shifter. If you go with xtra injectors, then you will need someone to weld an injector plate to your TB pipe. It's not that bad, but I have done a bunch, so maybe someone who hasn't done a bunch can post a better opinion for you.
Tuning can be done all yourself on the road, preferably a not very high traffic road and with a buddy, but I tuned mine by myself on a nice quiet, straight, wide road. Once you get the hang of it, it's a snap. You have an MSP, so you won't use the purple TM wires so you shouldn't have a problem with the switch coming on and tuning the buck out that people have talked about. In your case, tuning shouldn't be bad at all, but once again, I'll leave it to someone who hasn't done as many to give you a more "fair" answer.
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mazdaspeed75
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Its not that hard . I never thought i could due it either ,but i installed it , got a intial tune by Jdmsam and i started tunning from there .
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I have a question. Might seem stupid but I just want some more information. What about the E-Manage Ultimate? Is it compatable with an MSP? I'm trying to gather information on different EMS options that are available and wanted to know about this one. Thanks
JT
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No...... http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123620522
A local guy was going to upgrade his, but after this thread he saw it doesn't work. The blue and gold work, I guess that's what they are called.(thumb)
alright im thinking about the mpi right about now....so would i need to purchase a narrowband or wideband in order to use it? and im im confused about what J&S is. any help?
No need to purchase a w/b, but if you dont roll with the software on all the time, then I recommend you get a w/b. Think of the J&S as a second chance. Its algorithms are excellent and it will retard before detonation is audible. I run both units as does apoc. Our success with the units have been great.
is there a web page for it? honestly ive never even heard of J&S before. so its a computer unit then? how much does it run?
Here ya go: http://www.jandssafeguard.com/ I ordered one last week through turfburn and will be running it in tandem with an mpi. Cheap insurance intill I forge. (and then I can really test it out 
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)The J&S is a unit that prevents detonation. It is THE best thing you can get to prevent detonation period! Using it in conjunction with the the MPI will be very safe. I used the MPI only for over a year and a half with no issues, so using only the MPI will be safe too, if you tune it safe.
The MPI software has a narrowband readout so you don't need that but a WBO2 would be a great addition to monitor AFR's while you are driving without the laptop hooked up.
The MPI software has a narrowband readout so you don't need that but a WBO2 would be a great addition to monitor AFR's while you are driving without the laptop hooked up.
