What Mods Work

[NC_MP3]

OK, I guess I am the only one on here that has installed just about every part available for our cars, so I will give you all my opinion.

What Works:

Tripoint Engineering Flywheel. Definately revs quicker and I can feel a little more down low. Stock flywheel weighs 18.24 pounds, aluminum one weighs 7.42 pounds.

ACT Clutch. Although I don't have it in yet, a better clutch is always good. I would get the flywheel and clutch at the same time to save on installation prices.

B&M Short Shifter. Serves its purpose. Is definately shorter and works great.

What Doesn't Work:

FS-ZE and Mazdaspeed Cams. Don't waste the money to buy them and then to get them installed, they aren't worth the gains. Wait for a company to make some with proven HP gains.

Bosal Header. Don't waste the money on it. I wasn't impressed with the quality. There was a hole in one of the welds and it is leaking. I would save and get the turbo when it comes out, it will replace the stock header with the turbo manifold.

Intake. I wouldn't get an intake either, just doesn't give you much HP. Save the money for the turbo. Again, the turbo kit will replace the stock intake as well.

My opinion:

Wait for the turbo kit. Boosting this car will be the only way to get any good HP gains. If you want to start modding now, get the flywheel, clutch, and shifter.

If you don't ever plan on getting the turbo, I would get the Bosal Federal exhaust, Intake, and NOS.

Stay away from the pistons, they are all cast and not worth it.

 

[MP3-Owner]

Thanks for the imput, it is greatly appreciated.

 

[APEXistud]

Wow, so you're saying don't waste your money on buying parts for our MP3. I understand that some parts don't produce HP, but I wouldn't say don't spend the money. Thank goodness I'm not though, well as far performance goes anyway. I was trying to get the hood and rims, but I'd rather catch up on bills. And while I'm on the subject, why spend the money on a better clutch and flywheel. If you're not gonna be adding HP, the clutch isn't really needed. And yes the flywheel will make you're car quicker, but when it comes time for you to put the turbo on that 7.42lb flywheel may not be all it's cracked upto be. "Lighter is not always better", at least for daily driving it isn't. Too light of a flywheel could cause the motor to idle bad, and even cause the motor to studder when you're coming off boost.

My Opinion:

Everyone should do their own research before taking someone else's opinion. Doing your own research will always pay off. It has for me. Perfect example....I just recently read Maximum Boost not too long ago and decided to see how many people out there with boosted Civics and Integs actually knew what they were talking about. Conclusion..... it was sad to see how many people don't know the facts.

 

[NC_MP3]

Apexi, buddy, you're an idiot. Why don't you put down the magazines, get out of your mom's house, and actually do some s*** to your car. I spent the money, I bought the parts, and I am telling you what works and what doesn't. Me: Currently has 2 cars that are modded (MP3 and Integra). Has had 3 others in the past (95 Eclipse, 2000 Eclipse, and 2001 Celica). I know what I am talking about from EXPERIENCE. You: Reads Maximum Boost and SCC and thinks he knows something.

Sigh. It looks like Apexi is going to ruin this post with a pissing contest. Alot of you already have, but if you want more info just email me

 

[LinuxRacr]

Guys,

Let's not forget that Nitrous Oxide works wonders!

 

[NC_MP3]

Hehe, yeah NOS is cool

 

[APEXistud]

So since you bought a few things for your car, you're the formost expert on modding car now. Ok, man whatever makes helps you get to sleep at night. I was just giving my advice take it how you want. One dyno result doesn't say everything.

 

[kep0ne]

everyone on this board seems to have sticks up their asses recently...so touchy. anyhow, everyones entitled to their opinion about whatever, and everyones entitled to a rebuttal...and what it all comes down to is this...its YOUR car...do what you wanna do to it.

 

[LinuxRacr]

Can't we all just get along....

-Rodney King, 1992

 

[mazdaman]

Personally, I appreciate the info. I would never take one source as the end all and be all but actual experience is the best way to know. Thank you NC_MP3.

 

[gonzoATX]

 

[APEXistud]

Damn you guys. My post wasn't directed to piss NC off at all. But if he read what I posted as an insult to him, so what. I'm not apologizing for s***. If people can't take someone else's opinion, then that's their problem. I was just pointing out the possible downside to using a light flywheel with a turbo'd car. Just like Kep0 said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. In light of his comment, I added mine. Christ man.

NC would you like some cheese with that whine. Look bro, I don't give a good god damn what car you own or how much experience you may think you have. I can and will continue to post my opinion on whatever post I feel like posting it in. I other words "Deal with it". Point out one sentence or phrase in my post that was directed towards you. Didn't find one did ya.

People shouldn't jump to attack people so soon man, let people say what they want. Even if it does piss you off a little. When deciding on how to reply to most posts, I tend to look more at their content not their comments.

To answer the question as to what mods work though, I say let some more people try out some stuff and we'll just have to wait and see. That's all I gotta say in this post.

 

[Stou]

NC_MP3, I realy thank you for the info.

I was wondering if I was going for the turbo or stay NA and add cams, header, intake, etc. but was not sure that we where to get lots of HP with those parts.

Your experience prove that there's not much to gain whitout more deep changes like piston, porting, programable ECU and thing like that.

I think that for the same kind of money, you can get lot more power from a turbo.

I think we should learn from others people experiences.

... from what I saw on the board, NO2 sound great too!

and guys, keep it cool and stop fighting!

 

[PatProtegeGT]

Yeah, Thank for the info NC.

By the way, do you a dyno sheet of your car after doing all theses mods?

 

[Coolhand]

Yeah, no doubt, be sure to dyno the ol' girl!

 

[spoolinmp3]

Hey!
Thanks for the info NC.
This only inspires for my quest to turbo!!

I am going to say something here that alot of people may not like or agree with. My friend has a Type-R with cams, cam gears, high compression pistons and a bunch of other crap. His car puts out 203whp on the dyno. Thats right not crank hp but wheel hp. If you get an mp3 or lets say a miata and you spend 3 grand on all motor. You basically wasted all your money unless you dont mind spending that money and getting little power.
What I am trying to say here and I know you guys will hate me for this but If you want an all motor car buy a Honda! Aint nothin wrong with hondas, I would never buy one but I respect them for what they are. Now if you wanna turbocharge! Screw hondas with there weak rods, hollow blocks and super highcompression. Yeah you can make a turbo honda go fast but your gonna spend a hell of alot more money than a nissan or mazda on turbo.
Moral of this story is if you want to make an mp3 fast your either gonna have to spray it or boost it.
In other words I agree with NC.

Now theres nothing wrong with you guys out there that want to add an intake, exhaust and headers to give your car a little pep, but dont expect no drag racer either.

 

[DuCKieMP3]

Thanks for the opinions and info... BOth are appreciated... Let's just try to be civil about this next time... Gosh... when is a well tested turbo going to made for the car... Lately I've been feeling like I want to trade it in for another car with more power... SUcks to feel like this...