Lol at you guys bashing rotas...you know why everybody jump on the "I hate rota" band wagon? Its because somebody spent entirely too much money on a name that's on the sticker of a wheel spoke and saw somebody else rocking the same wheel for a fraction of the price. I love my sub zero's and have had zero issues with them. Those pictures of destroyed rota's floating are mostly the owners fault would be my guess last time I checked most wheels don't like being slammed into imoveable objects.