What cars can a stock P5 beat?

[eljefe305]

i just can't fathom a p5 beating any of those cars, even from a roll.
i mean i could see why you would have an advantage with some of them, but with just a CAI and this magical ability to give the car 100whp just from shifting is beyond me.


oh s*** it's my 100th post!

 

[Subghetto]

2.7t on a roll with friend's auto tranny in the trunk.
First gen. turbo DSM with boost controller and exhaust
Stock z28 automatic
audi a4 1.8t with boost guage
supercharged 2000+ impala LS

bulls*** next time post up some vids if you had an MSP it would probably be believable, but you have a P5 so I doubt you beat any of those cars you probably ******* flew by them and they did'nt give you the time of the day and you were like oh s***!!! I'am wining(yupnope)

 

[corndogge]

Don't worry everyone! You're not all stupid. It's a case of everyone else is wrong.

I have a stock P5 and I make a point not to roll on anybody in a straight line. I used to drive a 96 integra and it could've smoked the P5, but I love the twisties and that's where the P5 makes up for a lack of punch.

Think an LT1 has no top end? Maybe, but If you drive a P5 you might as well shift @ 4,500 cause you're not gonna get much after that. And if, by "top end" you mean top speed, then it's not a matter of how fast your car is just where the governor is set.

 

[anarchistchiken]

No, he's right. Auto LT-1's are some of the worst top end cars I've ever ridden in. The 6 speed is different, but that auto is a slushbox POS.

I wasn't saying th DSM was slow, I said something was broken. If everything was working right, he could have stomped you. The 2.7t, same thing. It was either worn down to hell or driven horribly or broken. Their hp curve is awsome with that turbo v-6, and from a roll they are very fast.

I believe the Impala is blown, I jsut dont understand why. And the Audi, I don't think he was trying. 1.8s are much faster than a P5 from a roll. I know because I know two people with them, and they are MUCH faster from a roll.

 

[snooky]

okay so now i know what cars i can beat, now i wanna know what cars the p5 beats in handling?

 

[Subghetto]

No, he's right. Auto LT-1's are some of the worst top end cars I've ever ridden in. The 6 speed is different, but that auto is a slushbox POS.

I wasn't saying th DSM was slow, I said something was broken. If everything was working right, he could have stomped you. The 2.7t, same thing. It was either worn down to hell or driven horribly or broken. Their hp curve is awsome with that turbo v-6, and from a roll they are very fast.

I believe the Impala is blown, I jsut dont understand why. And the Audi, I don't think he was trying. 1.8s are much faster than a P5 from a roll. I know because I know two people with them, and they are MUCH faster from a roll.

Yeah man that "could happen" but I doubt all those cars were ****** up it's not the goddamn twlights zone it's the real world. Either that or he is purposely racing broken down cars to win.

 

[anarchistchiken]

Nah, just the DSM and the 2.7 would need to be broken. And since DSM's are borken about 80% of the time, he has a good chance. The 1.8t I flat out do not believe. The guy wasn't racing, it's simple as that. Or he had a 1.8t badge on the 2.0

 

[Powells85]

Nah, just the DSM and the 2.7 would need to be broken. And since DSM's are borken about 80% of the time, he has a good chance. The 1.8t I flat out do not believe. The guy wasn't racing, it's simple as that. Or he had a 1.8t badge on the 2.0

For the audi 1.8t I have 2 witnesses who were in the car and 2 in his car too.

I even distinctly remember my friend sticking his hand out the window to give him the (no) signal. Ha ha.

I'll work on borrowing a DV cam and we'll get them on video. It's not like you'll believe me though.

But I really don't think a modded DSM that is in any working condition is anywhere near a stock 2.7T. It is as if someone is comparing apples and oranges ( a 13 second car to a 15 second car with a good driver ). But that DSM was not a 13 second car. In fact it was probably just a 15 second car. But I started to pull him in at 80 mph.

As far as the 2.7T goes. They ONLY run a 15.0 and a 15.6 with auto. And that is with AWD. I think it is safe to assume that most of that run has to do with their AWD Drivetrain. It is easily believable that if you were to run a 15.6 second car with AWD than subing the AWD for FWD on the same engine and car will yeild slower times. More like a high 15 or low 16. Sorry guys I just don't understand why it is so hard to believe that one of us can pull on an AUTOMATIC. It has 265hp but still runs a 15.6. So drivetrain loss for both the AUTOMATIC and AWD Drivetrain should allow a FWD drivetrain car that run's mid 16's more than an equal opputunity to put up a fight. Especially if I could easily jump into my powerband (manual) while he can not.

And by the way. Those 2.7T's are big boys. Like almost 4000lb big boys. That explains why they have AWD and 265hp but cant break 14's.

I hope me explaining it in this manner makes it a little easier to understand why a mid 16 second FWD car can put up a fight against a mid 15 second car with AWD and 4000lbs. Especially at a high speed roll.

 

[anarchistchiken]

As far as the 2.7T goes. They ONLY run a 15.0 and a 15.6 with auto. And that is with AWD. I think it is safe to assume that most of that run has to do with their AWD Drivetrain. It is easily believable that if you were to run a 15.6 second car with AWD than subing the AWD for FWD on the same engine and car will yeild slower times. More like a high 15 or low 16. Sorry guys I just don't understand why it is so hard to believe that one of us can pull on an AUTOMATIC. It has 265hp but still runs a 15.6. So drivetrain loss for both the AUTOMATIC and AWD Drivetrain should allow a FWD drivetrain car that run's mid 16's more than an equal opputunity to put up a fight. Especially if I could easily jump into my powerband (manual) while he can not.

And by the way. Those 2.7T's are big boys. Like almost 4000lb big boys. That explains why they have AWD and 265hp but cant break 14's.

I hope me explaining it in this manner makes it a little easier to understand why a mid 16 second FWD car can put up a fight against a mid 15 second car with AWD and 4000lbs. Especially at a high speed roll.

You just contradicted half of your argument as to how you beat some of them. 1/4 miles times don't matter from a roll. Matty's supercharged Pro is slow at the track because he insists on running bad ass dunlops and cant catch traction, and runs stock P5 times. But it will hand an MSP it's ass on the freeway. Same basic thing with the 2.7t cars. It takes them a long time to get going from a stop because of their weight, but once it gets into that power curve, they haul ass.

And the 1.8; fine maybe you did beat it, but it was a fluke. One of those very rare occurances, probably cause by the ar having a problem or the guy driving it not knowing how to drive worth a god damn thing.

Am I saying your car is slow? Hell yes I am! They are slow, and they are definatly slower than a 180 hp turbo car on the freeway, no matter how you look at it.

Just dont get cocky. It was an accident if you really did beat him, and that's then end of the story.

 

[WHoISU]

yourfather_luke

dude- blind chix don't count....

Hahahaha LOL... funny stuff

 

[eljefe305]

You just contradicted half of your argument as to how you beat some of them. 1/4 miles times don't matter from a roll. Matty's supercharged Pro is slow at the track because he insists on running bad ass dunlops and cant catch traction, and runs stock P5 times. But it will hand an MSP it's ass on the freeway. Same basic thing with the 2.7t cars. It takes them a long time to get going from a stop because of their weight, but once it gets into that power curve, they haul ass.

And the 1.8; fine maybe you did beat it, but it was a fluke. One of those very rare occurances, probably cause by the ar having a problem or the guy driving it not knowing how to drive worth a god damn thing.

Am I saying your car is slow? Hell yes I am! They are slow, and they are definatly slower than a 180 hp turbo car on the freeway, no matter how you look at it.

Just dont get cocky. It was an accident if you really did beat him, and that's then end of the story.

agreed.

 

[hookdupdelsol]

Del-sol(despite what you may think, Ive never seen a stock one run better than 17)

We would lose to any del Sol unless it was an Auto S(the 1.5 SOHC non-VTEC model)! Even an Auto Si(SOHC VTEC) would give us a run for our money! The VTEC(DOHC VTEC model) would murder us! The VTEC run's mid 15's respectfully! the Si's run mid 16's respectfully!

I own an Auto Si which is why I know I would lose with my Stock P5 against my del Sol Si!

 

[Brian MP5T]

A Moped...

 

[eljefe305]

 

[Brian MP5T]

^^ Now that's a Street Racer!

 

[eljefe305]

i heard they understeer a bit

 

[Brian MP5T]

 

[Jack Daniels]

Geo Metro... well that may even be pushing it... and to think i gave up a 98 Trans Am for my protege 5, oh well

:lol: I sold my '98 Z28 and bought my P5. Fun little car, but Jesus, they're slow. :yup:

 

[anarchistchiken]

that's why you buy a supercharger

 

[65racecoupe]

that's why you buy a supercharger

Or a turbo.

You can make any car fast, gut I happen to think that the P5 with 300 to 350 Wheel horsepower would be one of the ultimate daily drivers.

1. They look rea.lly nice when lowered and put on clean 17s. The stock body has great lines. The interior is nicely designed and doesn't look cheap
2. They are comfortable and have LOTS of space for a small car.
3. They handle great.
4. They get good great gas mileage. Even better with a Turbo on the freeway.
5. They are pretty unique.

I love the P5. You just can't expect to put some headers and CAI and exhaust and expect much of a difference. If you want it fast, you have to do a lot to it, but I think it is worth it. It is a great car.

Car and Driver said it would be a great ride with another 50 hp stock.