What bpv to get?

[MSMS3]

The Forge is great if you want to pick a fight. I have the Forge with Cobb intake and Cobb turbo inlet. Load up the boost and let off when you get next to the someone. It's loud and will scare them and or piss them off. I enjoy doing this. Got a stang GT pissed Saturday, he thought he was going to teach me a lesson.

How did you teach him a lesson? You have an SRI and at race pipe, but still running the highly restrictive DP and first cat? No MBC or tune and you beat him? How old was that Mustang GT?

Not saying you are wrong, but that must have been an older GT or was a 6 cylinder with GT markings, or had someone behind the wheel who couldn't drive the thing.

And since you are "getting next to" a car that is quicker from a dig, you would have to pull really hard to make up the head start he is going to get due to our poor traction and fwd layout.

I do not care for the Mustang GT. Would not own one. But it is a NA V-8 with rwd. It is very hard for us to pull on that configuration from a dig.

 

[MSMS3]

The Forge is great if you want to pick a fight. I have the Forge with Cobb intake and Cobb turbo inlet. Load up the boost and let off when you get next to the someone. It's loud and will scare them and or piss them off. I enjoy doing this. Got a stang GT pissed Saturday, he thought he was going to teach me a lesson.

How did you teach him a lesson? You have an SRI and at race pipe, but still running the highly restrictive DP and first cat? No MBC or tune and you beat him? How old was that Mustang GT?

Not saying you are wrong, but that must have been an older GT or was a 6 cylinder with GT markings, or had someone behind the wheel who couldn't drive the thing or wasn't really trying.

Car and Driver tested one in 2007 and got 5.1 second 0-60 and 13.8 quarter mile. With very simple and inexpensive mods, they drop into the mid to low 13's.

And since you are "getting next to" a car that is quicker from a dig, you would have to pull really hard to make up the head start he is going to get due to our poor traction and fwd layout.

I do not care for the Mustang GT. Would not own one. But it is a NA larger displacement V-8 with rwd. It is very hard for us to pull on that configuration from a dig.

Just wondering.

 

[john blutarski]

^^^ A stock 08 Mustang GT will run around 13.8@103 in the quarter. That is not far off from what our cars run.

 

[ByrdMan23]

Just wondering.[/QUOTE]

I hear ya on the car and driver test but... ill list my experience with stangs
1. 02 stang GT stock vrs. my ms3 with intake from a 20= me winning by a car and a half.

2. 02 stang GT with intake and exhaust vrs my ms3 with exhuast and intake from a 30= same thing ^^^^

3. buddies 07 stang gt stock vrs my ms3 intake, exhaust, forge bypass from a slow roll like 10= ms3 by a car

4. random 07 stang with major bolt ons- my ms3^ me loosing by a car and a half

pretty much all of these races ended around 115.. so maybe if we were to continue the stang would pull...
@! ANY TIME I SEE A GT I EXPECT A CLOSE RACE.....

 

[08cosmic3]

Stock GT's are not that fast. 300 hp for the newer ones I believe. My car is probably 285 and it's lighter. From a roll you can beat them and I have seen videos of MS3's beating them from a dig. The older GT's are even slower.

 

[Jasnall]

I have the synapse and think it has the most neutral sound, not pitched or anything, just a clean chhhhh. But I'm afraid any AM BOV will be fairly audible with an intake, even recirc'd.

I like the synapese alot, no adjusting needed and its very responsive. BUT be prepaired to deal with fitment issues. Its huge and can rub the hood and front radiator support with out some tweaking.

 

[MSMS3]

I think we produce more power on the top end than a stock Mustang GT when our turbo is at full boil, especially if we have uncorked both the intake and the exhaust. I didn't see much to suggest that the OP had opened the exhaust that much, as he only has an RP on that side.

But we have an ECU that will only let us get maybe 220 horses (at the flywheel) in the lower two gears, and we have a fwd vehicle with serious traction problems. We have really crappy 60 ft times, have a turbo that needs to spool up and gather a head of steam, and are more likely to have 0-60 times in the mid to high 5 second range rather than the 5.1 second times of the 300 hp GT.

I've raced them too. With a really good, careful launch feathering of the throttle and everything going well, I can get down to 5.1 seconds to 60 mph from a dig, and can then put some serious hurt on him after I get hooked up and powershift into third and above.

What I'm trying to say is most time slips posted here with essentially stock MS3's that are not running DOT drag radials, do not have a tune or an MBC, and do not have opened intake and exhaust with both DP and RP, are having trouble getting down to 14.0. The Mustang GT launches very easily and will run those 13.8's all night long with an idiot driver if he does not outright miss a shift. The difference between 13.8 and 14.0 is two whole car lengths in the quarter mile.

I have trouble concluding that the OP "taught him a lesson."

Could be wrong. Have been wrong. Will be wrong again, but that's my opinion based on my experience and the known data.

BTW

 

[Jasnall]

(jacked)

 

[Silver Ecstasy]

Big time jacked..



I've spanked a Mustang GT before on the e-way. lol seriously.

 

[Timshadi]

Mustang GT = POS
Smokem' all day long!!!!

 

[MSMS3]

Sorry if I jacked the thread, guys. The OP was looking for a quiet or silent BPV that holds boost a bit better than stock. All my posts until the last were directly with him on the issue because I feel the same way. Don't need no stinking noisy show off toy, just pure performance.

But I did bite on the "teach him a lesson" post by a BOV fan with minimal mods. My apology. But I think the BOV "lets make noises we like" posters jacked this thread a long time ago. Lets go back to discussing what we can do to help the OP find a silent true BPV that is more solidly constructed than the plastic stock piece.

I think the TurboSmart true BPV may be the answer for us guys that want to be seen (our tail lights getting smaller) and not heard. As soon as it hits the market and we can evaluate it, I may be in.

 

[ByrdMan23]

does anyone know the "release date" ,if you will, of that valve?

 

[08cosmic3]

Sorry if I jacked the thread, guys. The OP was looking for a quiet or silent BPV that holds boost a bit better than stock. All my posts until the last were directly with him on the issue because I feel the same way. Don't need no stinking noisy show off toy, just pure performance.

But I did bite on the "teach him a lesson" post by a BOV fan with minimal mods. My apology. But I think the BOV "lets make noises we like" posters jacked this thread a long time ago. Lets go back to discussing what we can do to help the OP find a silent true BPV that is more solidly constructed than the plastic stock piece.

I think the TurboSmart true BPV may be the answer for us guys that want to be seen (our tail lights getting smaller) and not heard. As soon as it hits the market and we can evaluate it, I may be in.

I would never put a BOV on my car. The Forge BPV is the closest to stock you can get, the dealer might not even see it and with the stock air box it is silent. Any BPV with an intake is going to make noise. If you want more performace out of this car you have to open up the intake and exhaust and it will be louder then, no way around it. If you want silent, buy a Buick.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

If you want silent, buy a Buick.

amen.

 

[ByrdMan23]

haha... you have a point

 

[Jasnall]

Just make sure its not a grand national(guitar)

 

[Bonafide_Spd3]

I'm not a mustang fan, I tried racing a srt challenger but traffic sucked. He had atleast an intake and exhaust. He saw my military stickers and he was military and pulled up beside me and started revin the motor up. Sounded pretty nice

 

[MSMS3]

Well the stock BPV is silent with the MSCAI. At least I can't hear it.

But it is a cheap plastic part that seems pretty well designed and works well so far. But given its construction, I don't know for how much longer. So I may be one of the first to try out the still unreleased TurboSmart true BPV, once it gets here.

 

[ByrdMan23]

Well the stock BPV is silent with the MSCAI. At least I can't hear it.

thats interesting... ive had a few different intakes and during acceleration i can hear them all suck in and as i shift i hear i nice little chuuuhh .. I let my buddy drive while i listened standing outside.. it makes a noticeable sound.. obviously not as loud as a aftermarket but still pretty nice to me

 

[ms6dj]

does anyone know the "release date" ,if you will, of that valve?

Just got an email today from Mark at SU, "Nothing new on the TS BPV, I hope to have a prototype in by the end of May."

To the OP again, as others have said that might be your best option in terms of sound if you want to switch from stock. I had asked SU about what sound the TS BPV would make, as I wasn't a fan of my Forge BPV 'ping' sound (which I'll be putting up for sale here soon), and Sam had this to say:

"The new Turbosmart bypass will have a subtle whoosh like the stock valve, only louder."

So the idea is better-than-stock performance with closer-to-stock sound, but will have to wait to see what that performance difference is (trying to get my hands on a Cobb AP beforehand so I can datalog stock BPV, then switch out to TS BPV and compare psi at different engine conditions).