WANTED!!! J&S Safeguard...
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Give it up for Turf!!!!!!!!(alright)
Turf, wasn't you one of the original board members along with guys like Linux who actually setup the pre-made RPM maps?
John from J&S was talking about sombody from the forum who helped him alot and very knowledgable when it came to eletronics and cars and such...
my J&S has pre-made maps to pull 3,6 or 9 degrees starting at 4000rpm - 5500rpm and then begins to slowly add it back starting at 5500rpms
I bought my J&S from Cory and I also bought Patrick's J&S setup as well for Moeed to use on his soon to be Modern Performance boosted P5...
Turf, wasn't you one of the original board members along with guys like Linux who actually setup the pre-made RPM maps?
John from J&S was talking about sombody from the forum who helped him alot and very knowledgable when it came to eletronics and cars and such...
my J&S has pre-made maps to pull 3,6 or 9 degrees starting at 4000rpm - 5500rpm and then begins to slowly add it back starting at 5500rpms
I bought my J&S from Cory and I also bought Patrick's J&S setup as well for Moeed to use on his soon to be Modern Performance boosted P5...
TurfBurn said:
CasopoliS said:
The unit and knock sensor will come as a kit, all the boost, rpm, etc are included and part of the deal, just customized to the application or whatever you guys want (I'll do a detailed tech section on it for the group buy so you can choose more accurately). The only thing that is an option is the gauge... the gauge basically is a series of LED's that will light up letting you know that it detected knock and how many degrees of timing it is pulling. It is a great tool for visualizing things more accurately, and I recommend having one. John has allowed me to build some custom gauges for customers on occasion, but I'd hestitate to do that in bulk as he makes and sells his own gauges for a reason, but again that would be something we'd work out. I have messages in with him already and will talk with him this evening most likely and get things squared up for you guys including number of units, pricing, options etc...
Great, Yep I mailed my check off for the guage and some replacement wires and little green connector thing the other day.
Man, this is great we will now have a vendor who sells the J&S, should help John and us out a lot...
I like the guages and now that the Knock sensor guage now comes in anodized black as well, rocks!!!!
Man, this is great we will now have a vendor who sells the J&S, should help John and us out a lot...
I like the guages and now that the Knock sensor guage now comes in anodized black as well, rocks!!!!
Sweet. Well I am awaiting pricing and GB options.
#1 - Am I right in saying Bosch sensor + combo gauge would give me WB O2?
#2 - Can a kit be included in the GB that would include an O2 sensor?
#3 - How does the knock sensor mount?
Thanks!
#1 - Am I right in saying Bosch sensor + combo gauge would give me WB O2?
#2 - Can a kit be included in the GB that would include an O2 sensor?
#3 - How does the knock sensor mount?
Thanks!
I have the AEM WB AFR and I use the MPI which uses the stock NB AFR, Believe it or not they both read the same pretty dead on, I think even BiggTimm has the same opinion as well.
The guage John offers uses the stock NB, but you turn it to power mode and it locks it into the 11-13 AFR range which allows for you to use it just like a WB for that specific range. Which is where you will be tuning while under boost, but I do like the WB AFR's that are available. I think the AFR guage is a good cheap option for those who don't want to spend to much money and still have some form of AFR readings while under boost.
Of course, I have not used the AFR John offers, but if it works as good as the MPI does with the NB AFR then it should perform as stated above...
Turf, have you used the J&S AFR guage? what is your opinion of it? not just NB in general, we all know they are worthless christmas tree lights
and maybe you could offer a discount of some WB AFR to those who buy the J&S unit from you and then buy a WB AFR from you as well, even if they buy the WB at a later date???
your thoughts????
The guage John offers uses the stock NB, but you turn it to power mode and it locks it into the 11-13 AFR range which allows for you to use it just like a WB for that specific range. Which is where you will be tuning while under boost, but I do like the WB AFR's that are available. I think the AFR guage is a good cheap option for those who don't want to spend to much money and still have some form of AFR readings while under boost.
Of course, I have not used the AFR John offers, but if it works as good as the MPI does with the NB AFR then it should perform as stated above...
Turf, have you used the J&S AFR guage? what is your opinion of it? not just NB in general, we all know they are worthless christmas tree lights
and maybe you could offer a discount of some WB AFR to those who buy the J&S unit from you and then buy a WB AFR from you as well, even if they buy the WB at a later date???
your thoughts????
I have not used the JandS AFR gauge and in general I just won't go near anything that uses a narrowband sensor even if it is calibrated to a range. It is good that they are limiting it and making it somewhat more believable though through that method, so from that standpoint is reasonable at least.
We don't have a source for widebands at this point (other than the AEM, which i"m not a fan of... so I won't sell it to customers typically unless they specifically request it) so I'll have to work on that, but I would be able to work something out. Profit margins on things like that are usually super small so it's often hard to offer any discount as you'll usually be near break even as is. But I would certainly consider it if there was any ability to do so!
We don't have a source for widebands at this point (other than the AEM, which i"m not a fan of... so I won't sell it to customers typically unless they specifically request it) so I'll have to work on that, but I would be able to work something out. Profit margins on things like that are usually super small so it's often hard to offer any discount as you'll usually be near break even as is. But I would certainly consider it if there was any ability to do so!
Now this sounds like deal!!! You guys may want to look into this...
TurfBurn said:No, but as I said in my other post... boost + stock ECU timing usually doesn't result in any need to up timing..
I'm also willing to offer Microtech plus JandS packages as well... probably be around 1500-1600 for a JandS and Microtech combo... full standalone and protection for less than 1800.
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