Wanted: Built shortblock opinions?

One guy was racing, the other guy admitted to not shifting correctly, and the third didn't have a MSP. I agree that it would be nice to get a tranny that could handle a lot of torque and force though.
 
I garuntee no one that drives their car right will make enough power to break the trannies. I was dumping the clutch @ 3k with the 26/9/15 slicks and the only thing that didn't hold up was the act clutch.
 
I hope your right, but I have a feeling that its not going to last to long with 400hp
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
2 out of 3 posted were blown diff's. And 1 wasn't determined....thus supporting my previous statement.
Not trying to be a dick but how can oyu tell it was there DIffs when they said they had a blown tranny
 
Did you reinforce you LSD? I can't imagine that taking the beating you put it through without some sort of modification. s***, people were breaking theirs hitting potholes:)
 
My problem isnt really the power the trannys can handle but how sloppy the operation of them are

Edit: And when someone does start hard shifting or shifting real fast then a few problems start to arise quickly, forks, syncros, ect
 
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I have the second version of the diff. in it now. No modifications.

Oh, I'm not a dick, I'm a "tool". lol And if you read the description of their problem and had a good understanding on how transmissions worked you would realize this was what happened also.
 
BlkZoomZoom said:
I have the second version of the diff. in it now. No modifications.

Oh, I'm not a dick, I'm a "tool". lol And if you read the description of their problem and had a good understanding on how transmissions worked you would realize this was what happened also.
Ok but theres atleast one that wasnt due to the MSP LSD cause it was a Pro ES
 
lol and the "es" doesn;t have the upgraded components the MSp does. I never stated an unleaded protege had a strong transmission, I have replaced enough synchros to know better, lol
 
Whats the Diff between a ES and MSP Tranny (Besides LSD)

And what can you do to increase the tolerances for faster shifting
 
Trans

I'm looking for a better Trans. at the end of Jan. Wagner will be done building my Engine,Sheet metal Intake, Exhaust Manafold, T3/T4 Hybrid Turbo, down pipe,RPS Clutch,Fidanza Flywheel, and should be around 300 WHP + Later I'm getting new axels. I think Andrew is welding my LSD also. So ya I'm going to need a new Tranny sometime soon.
 
wicked said:
our tranny's are a lot stronger then people are making them sound,just cause we have a LSD that likes to break.

MAM-
any way,aboout those short blocks.
were the blocks just OE,then machined,or did you guys have them checked for week spots,cracks,or thin spots?

also are they bored over?if so,then how much .20?

what about compresion ratio? the OE is 9.1 to 1,can I get 8.5 to 1?

how much do you guys charge for a core,because I want to keep mine.

are you re-milling the top deck,if so are you going to componsate for the ratio change?




sorry to bug with all these questions,but if I'm going to pick one or two of these up from you guys instead of me getting them done here I want to make sure I getting exactly want I'm looking for.

thanks
The blocks we get are fully checked over to ensure they can be used.All blocks are magnafluxed and checked for cracks.Our motors are custom built to your needs.So i you want a .020 over or a lite hone we will do it.Same goes fr compression, it's s custom motor built to your likings.Core charge is $500.
As for re-milling, Yes, the block is square decked and quench height is set.Compression is already figured in when we order the pistons.
 
Mental Addiction said:
The blocks we get are fully checked over to ensure they can be used.All blocks are magnafluxed and checked for cracks.Our motors are custom built to your needs.So i you want a .020 over or a lite hone we will do it.Same goes fr compression, it's s custom motor built to your likings.Core charge is $500.
As for re-milling, Yes, the block is square decked and quench height is set.Compression is already figured in when we order the pistons.

see,when I ask a question to a company,and you get responses like this.It really makes you want to try what they have to offer.

I will be trying your products soon.
thanks.
 
spacemonkey said:
Seems like someoen should do a nice little write up for those who want to do it themselves.
How on earth could you do it yourself unless you have a machine shop? There is a specific machine for each process and they are super expensive! If you want just a plain ol' rebuild, get the Haynes manual (I got it). It's a great how-to with pics and specs.
 
not to mention doing it right would require the correct mazda torque plate which costs several hundred dollars.
 
spacemonkey said:
Seems like someoen should do a nice little write up for those who want to do it themselves.
yeah, I could do a write up on it, pretty much tell you everything Beau does to it, but you are still going to end up costing pretty much the same he charges... see, there is a LOT done to this block for prep, and of course ATLEAST $1500 in parts alone, not including the block core, not including any machine work (which is expensive), and not including all the time required to do it. which I've been tooling on my block for a while. damn casting flash...

see, I'm basically building my block to Beau's specs. I would of just sent it to him if I knew he was going to do this, but I started before I knew he was going to. right now I'm just waiting on a few items to come in, and my crank to come back from Beau (I did end up having him do the machinework for the trust bearing instead of trying to do it locally)
 
Im not saying im going to do it myself because Beau if offering a fantastic price for it. The amount of workmanship is a fantastic price!

Im just saying it would be nice to know how its done for those that would like to do it themselves. i had a friend who worked at Nissan and I helped build up his engine (CA18DET)...I learn a great deal about engines... We did it in his Garage on weekends. YOU LEARN A GREAT DEAL! I seriously can not emphasis how much you learn form hands on experience. Reading about it is one thing but doing it is another. I know more about nissan engiens then I do about Mazda engines because of that. I can read s*** on building a nuclear bomb/rocket engine but I wont learn unless I practice it.

Yes, there are alot of machiens you need....thats why theres a s*** load of shops in the city I live in or in pretty much alot of cities. Titan Motorsports can offer alot of these service since they have literally the worlds fastest supras and are pretty famous NHRA competition...im sure you seent he BF Goodwrench ads. CFT is known for tuning (Microtech) and building cars like a 500+ hp street integra (currently working on a Celica). Enjuku is also local and I think they would have or know where you can get these services doen. There are plenty of hot rod places that will also perform and help out with specific serivices. I relize some dont have the luxury but im sure there is some place that rebuilds engine or offer services like this. Think of how popular hot roding and customization is. There has got to be a place that does machine work/stress testing.

It may cost alot...which is the reason why im not doing it. But those who want to learn always have the option. I cant even begine to express how much better it is to put your hands on internals and torquing them and having the satisfation that you did it yourself. If you know people in town...you can get away with some of the prices. I.E. friend at nissan could easily "borrow" parts. Infact he could work on his car when hes done...which he did when he put in his LSD. I guearentee there is a tech thats down to earth enough to work with you or give you advice...someone real passionate (ie blkzoom. And who knows maybe a dealer will help out because its good exposure for them. Nissan dealership here is making a drag car.

I dont see whats the big deal about documenting something and posting it so that those who choose to do it themselves and learn. its referenc...and its knowledge and thats why most of us on on these forums...to learn. If i blow my engine knowing I built it...that would feel alot better then a blown engine that someone else built.

Thanks to MAM and beau for offering such a fantastic deal. And to note that I believe our tranny is very capable...very. Which is why my 1st priority is to replace the LSD with Quaife...I feel its a worth while investment because is unit guarentee for life. that shold make the tranny stronger as a whole.
 
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