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Who's gonna make it?

  • George W. Bush

    Votes: 78 41.3%
  • John Kerry

    Votes: 91 48.1%
  • Dennis Kucinich

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Ralph Nader

    Votes: 8 4.2%
  • Lyndon Larouche

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Other (like the Rev.)

    Votes: 10 5.3%

  • Total voters
    189
StuttersC said:
Sweet...I love conspiracy THEORY!

Have you seen the murals at Denver International Airport too??
Its not a conspiracy theory if you did the research before you came here flaming me and making yourself look like a moron you will find out it is fact that as i said every administration for the past 30 odd years have been full of people who are part of The CFR, bilderberg group, or trilateral commission. And if you research on all those groups you will see they are all for a world govt. but if your ok with that then you shouldnt care but i certainly am concerned.

Can you give me a logical explination as to how this is a conspiracy theory other than the fact that my information is not of the mainstream. You obviously have not done any research on this before posting your flame. Would you tell a historian how the pyramids were built before doing any research? Didnt think so, so apply that example to all things.

BTw bush has a Iq of 91 and clearly has some kind of mental dissorder. There is no way he is not running the country.
 
Why can't we just have a candidate that isn't a nimrod or asshat or ftard or dumbass or lame or corrupt etc...just a good/intelligent/honest guy...how hard is that?

I just look at our choices and shake my head...(headshake
 
Everytime I see a clip of Bush on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show"...it cracks me up...and then I realize he's actually our president...sad....
 
StuttersC said:
Sweet...I love conspiracy THEORY!

Have you seen the murals at Denver International Airport too??
I just spent a while reading random crap about that on the web. Interesting stuff, kinda creepy paintings, but nothing horrible I guess.

Your in the military, maybe you have a better veiw on the paintings and masonic stuff thoughout there than i do, even though my father is a free mason....
 
Antoine said:
Why can't we just have a candidate that isn't a nimrod or asshat or ftard or dumbass or lame or corrupt etc...just a good/intelligent/honest guy...how hard is that?
That kind of person would never get that far in politics.
 
If you go to kerry's website to read his platforms.. make sure to refresh after each paragraph as his opinion is subject to change without notice
 
pretzellogic- I am with you totally-
I need to point out a few things that have reared their ugly head yet again.
It seems that the automatic response from anyone who supports bush is that if you are against the war or any war for that matter, then you are anti-american- this is the weakest argument I have ever heard- I love america and I support our troops- I don't support the person who put them there- I have a lot of patriotism and feel strongly about unjust actions, which is why I speak out in the first place.

Second- Kerry is an idiot. Under a normal (whatever that could be) situation there is no way I could bring myself to settle for a candidate, with that being said, where we are currently as a country is ridiculous- antagonizing the rest of the world (who was sypathetic to us when 9/11 happened) by moving in on a country who to this date, has no factual evidence of links with Al-Quaida been proven, no WMD's have been found, and has no history that has changed in a very long time- and it has cost us a lot of lives.

The cost of war is a hard one to judge, which is why it should be the last action that a president should take, if no other options are presented- and if all the money and manpower that has been dedicated to Iraq would have been instead thrown at finding the person who should be our primary goal- bin laden, we probably would have found him.

Bush is vindictive with a purpose of manifest destiny, which are extremely dangerous characteristics for a world leader- we are not supposed to lead the world by intimidation (beating up countries that don't support our actions-not literally), we are supposed to lead by example- if someone attacks us- then retaliate. If we think someone might possibly be a threat, find out for sure, don't attack without true verified proof- that leads to resentment and a greater threat to our national security than was presented before.

Out of this, all I can say is think before you act- interest rates were cut because the economy sucks- not as a personal favor.
 
Antoine said:
Why can't we just have a candidate that isn't a nimrod or asshat or ftard or dumbass or lame or corrupt etc...just a good/intelligent/honest guy...how hard is that?

I just look at our choices and shake my head...(headshake
Because no one will vote for a woman yet. lol
 
Sometimes all you need is change, and that's what most of the country feels and seems to want.

The only thing I'm afraid of now is that people might not feel as safe behind a president who's not wanting to walk around with his gun cocked and his finger resting on the big red button. Bush makes fearful americans feel warm and fuzzy.


katsmp3 said:
To all those that think we should not be at war with Iraq,

The day my father returned from vietnam he walked past a peace rally. he walked up to a guy holding a sign that said "Stop fighting, Start Talking" He hit he man square in the Jaw. The man fell and got up angry. My dad reminded him of his sign. The guy agreed and began to calm down. So my dad hit him again, this time a little harder. The guy was really mad now and stood up, before he could say anything my dad reminded him of his sign. The guy started to calm down and My dad hit him so hard he was bleeding. The guy stood up and finally realized that you can only talk peace for so long.


This is not a true story and is simply to make a point
Sounds like a cool "he showed him" story, but it's just dumb.

It's not a true story because the point that it makes is not realistic in all levels. There is a difference between defense and retaliation. It takes a real big person to stop a retaliation cycle, and we all know that unless presidents stop thinking about the re-election year they will just do whatever puts them back in office.
We all know it only takes one guy with a lot of hatred and influence to get something started - we are not going to commit genocide in the name of US security, are we that much more important than the rest of the world?
 
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i'd vote for anyone who will legalize marijuana.
untill then i will not be voting period !

Bush is about as dumb as a bag of rocks.
Kerry is not impressing me much either,
But for as long as american boys and girls are sent to fight for no god damn reason i am not happy. i am lucky enough to be out of the military now, but all the guys in my unit are in Iraq right now...for the second time around....ask them what they think of bush, even with pay raises and bigger housing allowances. **** Bush, that's what i say, anybody is better then him.
 
cbcbd said:
and we all know that unless presidents stop thinking about the re-election year they will just do whatever puts them back in office.
This doesn't make sense.. This is the one thing that could keep bush from being re-elected. You are looking for someone that plays chess not checkers.. I dont want a president that thinks 80 steps ahead so that by the time we could have been PRO-ACTIVE... we are getting attacked. I want someone that plays checkerss meaning that he sees a problem and he eliminates it.. then moves on to the next play.


I want to hear what some of you that are against the war, think that we should have done.. and dont waste out time mentioning going through the UN.. because we tried.
 
katsmp3 said:
This doesn't make sense.. This is the one thing that could keep bush from being re-elected. You are looking for someone that plays chess not checkers.. I dont want a president that thinks 80 steps ahead so that by the time we could have been PRO-ACTIVE... we are getting attacked. I want someone that plays checkerss meaning that he sees a problem and he eliminates it.. then moves on to the next play.


I want to hear what some of you that are against the war, think that we should have done.. and dont waste out time mentioning going through the UN.. because we tried.
The game analogy doesn't work too well for this case, there is strategy in checkers and chess. I don't think it makes sense to have someone in power that acts on impulse and not think of the future consequences of their actions.
I'm not saying there aren't any positives that came out of the war, but you just really have to analyze what you're getting into and if the negatives will
make your actions worth it -
ie. The lives lost of X american soldiers and Y civilians, and the damaged foreign relationship with many countries, and the added hatred put into terrorist organizations increasing the risk of attacks and fear of attacks, and the neglect of the economy - Were those consequences all worth the reasons to go to war? We don't really have access to the whole truth, so we pick things that we can relate to and stick with that.
 
MP3skaterNC said:
I just spent a while reading random crap about that on the web. Interesting stuff, kinda creepy paintings, but nothing horrible I guess.

Your in the military, maybe you have a better veiw on the paintings and masonic stuff thoughout there than i do, even though my father is a free mason....
I looked up all of that stuff about DIA after I had to wrestle with some schizophrenic guy (off his meds for about two weeks) who drove all the way out to DIA from Kansas to see those things. He flipped out at the airport, and they brought him to my work. How nice...

Anyway, the murals are kind of odd for an airport. However, the plaques (which are never mentioned, and I have read them) regarding the murals are supposed to be about the past and present and how people need to work together to prevent another WWII type thing.

As for the rest of the stuff out there saying DIA is the Western Hemipshere NWO headquarters and lizard men running a secret underground base and all of that. I doubt it. There are so many hallways and doors and things that go all over the place there that it is quite possible that a person coul enter one door and never go back out that door.

Not to mention, the reliable witnesses are often ticket counter clerks, who are often times busy dealing with airline passengers and not paying attention to who goes where for what.

So, after all of that, it is interesting to wonder about. The numerous times I have been through DIA, everything seems normal to me. No strange lizard men or anything. And the underground tunnels do go pretty far.

Being a cop got me this stuff. Being a Marine didn't tell me squat about DIA...
 

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