Volkswagen GTi DSG vs 6spd manual

wow that's nuts. the DSG is a pretty crazy advantage in terms of drag racing. i wonder how well it holds up to adding horsepower
 
I have VW store at the dealer I work at and the DSG just feels significantly faster than the MTX. Stupid 56k wouldn't let me see the outcome. What happened?
 
the dsg beat everything, a manual glf, a renualt that had 20+hp and another car that was 100kg lighter, same hp...lost to an integra type r and that was almost a tie... pretty nuts
 
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I really like the VW/Audi DSG tranny. It's probably the only "auto" that I would ever want to drive. Great combo with the 2.0L DISI turbo.
 
its true clutchless technology. my gf has one and the shifts are perfect. its shifts are just as fast,if not, even faster and more accurate than an mtx tranny.
 
Unless you can shift in under .6 of a second, then forget about it. Not to mention a DSG uses 2 clutches. One is actually shifting before it goes into gear.
 
nice but i am a purist and this makes me sad. But you just can't stop the technology :(
 
tyusha said:
nice but i am a purist and this makes me sad. But you just can't stop the technology :(

I agree. I like driving manuals better because you can do things by controlling the clutch that you just plain can't with and auto or DSG. It's still pretty cool, though.
 
xFLiPsTyLeZx said:
its true clutchless technology

DSG = Dual Clutch Gearbox

It actually has two clutches. The DSG gearbox is always spinning the gear above and below your current selected gear so when you shift up the car is already in the next gear, same with downshifts.
 
Jhova1012 said:
DSG = Dual Clutch Gearbox

It actually has two clutches. The DSG gearbox is always spinning the gear above and below your current selected gear so when you shift up the car is already in the next gear, same with downshifts.

Yeah it's a very beautiful system but I don't think I could do it. I really like having a clutch, I don't think I could go back to just pulling a lever into drive and going. I want to be sitting there controling the gears myself all the time. :'(
 
KanseiZM said:
Yeah it's a very beautiful system but I don't think I could do it. I really like having a clutch, I don't think I could go back to just pulling a lever into drive and going. I want to be sitting there controling the gears myself all the time. :'(
Oh yeah no doubt but... if the wife got a car and it HAD to be an automatic... then... You could suprise the hell out of some little punks in a DSG 3.2 Audi A3
 
Jhova1012 said:
Oh yeah no doubt but... if the wife got a car and it HAD to be an automatic... then... You could suprise the hell out of some little punks in a DSG 3.2 Audi A3

My hope for the DSG system is that the cost comes down so that midsize sedans that want to label themselves as sporty (the Mazda6 and Altima come to mind) could have it as an option. My mom definitely would have gotten it on her Altima if it was an option, as she couldn't go with a manual at the time due to pending ankle surgery on her left ankle.. argh.
 
KanseiZM said:
My hope for the DSG system is that the cost comes down so that midsize sedans that want to label themselves as sporty (the Mazda6 and Altima come to mind) could have it as an option. My mom definitely would have gotten it on her Altima if it was an option, as she couldn't go with a manual at the time due to pending ankle surgery on her left ankle.. argh.

Its already in the Jetta GLI. Which beat out the MS6 in a shootout, forget which one.
 
Jhova1012 said:
Its already in the Jetta GLI. Which beat out the MS6 in a shootout, forget which one.
DSG in GLI? and it the article was "Everyday Heroes" which wasn't a well thought out comparison IMO...
Thought it was only that tiptronic nonsense
 
It makes me sad, but it's the way of the future. It could also be nice in satisfying significant others.

Now just put it in a Mazda or a non-fugly affordable BMW and I'm there for my next daily driver (in four years or so).
 
I still hate the fact that the DSG doesn't hold the gears. Un-intended upshifts make baby jesus cry.
 
Puckpimp71 said:
I still hate the fact that the DSG doesn't hold the gears. Un-intended upshifts make baby jesus cry.
? It will hold but its not going to sit there and bounce off a the revlimiter if thats what you want.

And yes the GTI and GLI either come with the 6spd standard and DSG is an option, no standard auto here.
 
Jhova1012 said:
Its already in the Jetta GLI. Which beat out the MS6 in a shootout, forget which one.

I still know which one I could pick. The Jetta doesn't compete with the MS6 in my book, that's like everyone drawing comparisons between it and the Evo MR. Sadly, the Jetta loaded up with the DSG probably costs more than the MS6, and damn the MS6 is sexy :)

I'm not likin the new Jetta styling but it fits very well on the GTI.
 

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