US Diesel's big splash introduction
- Thread starter Monterra
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- 2022 2.5GT
Unob! Where you been!
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- Plano, Texas, USA
??? Already mentioned the overheating report was not from FaceBook posts but was reported by local newspaper:
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Why only Thailand if you’re so certain that these failures are indicative of a general failure. It’s a tiny market for diesels.
For the umpteenth time, it's not a major issue worldwide yet.
No more doom and gloom please.
Think it's time to move on.
Why do you find informative posts and facts as doom and gloom?
Because of the way the entire worldwide stock (current included) of the 2.2 Diesel engine is being portrayed as problematic when main issues (oil, overheating and others) were primarily related to 2012-2016 2.2D.
We don't yet have enough data to state that the diesel engine from KF series onwards experience major issues like the KE diesels did.
Information and facts is one thing but painting all engines (KE, KF and now KF/KG) in the same boat is incorrect.
Until we get widespread, worldwide issues, there is no need to project doom and gloom, panic or negativity. Issues if they exist should be highlighted in a constructive way and in perspective. In this case, it is 2 countries and looks like the previous series (KE). This doesn't mean the KF & KG will experience the same sort of issues which is what is currently being inferred.
No head in the sand here - just stating the facts aka not a widespread issue at this stage and just because something happened in the past, doesn't mean will happen again in the future. Fine to read as a reference point but that is all
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Well I read the news from Taiwan, not Thailand. They're two different countries in Asia although the weather and environment are similar. The overheating report from Taiwan mentioned Mazda in Thailand offered extended warranty on diesel for CX-5 due to the same overheating issue and those CX-5 owners in Taiwan have been asking Mazda in Taiwan doing the same. Mazda in Taiwan promised those CX-5 owners after a protest that they'll get some answers and resolutions from Mazda headquarter in Japan about overheating issue in September last year but so far they get no answers. In the mean time Mazda in Taiwan stopped offering all diesels in Taiwan for 2019 MY due to the bad image already created and lack of resolution from Mazda Japan.
I've said before the overheating problem on SkyActiv-D with some miles could be related to hot and humid environment along with stop-and-go traffic in these areas. But the engine overheating without any warning and lack of resolution from Mazda headquarter are my concerns especially if I live in a hot and humid environment such as Houston when Mazda eventually makes the diesel available in the US.
I've only answered the question earlier about the diesel with the information I have and the facts. If someone considered these information and facts are "negative" and shouldn't be here, I think he only wants to bury his head in the sand.
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Busy.
I concur... this is exactly how VW responded to DSG and Diesel issues in Taiwan... by not responding.
"looks like the previous series (KE). " That isn't a fact though is it, as the 2017 onwards has barely put miles up on the engines, I think you are being hopeful rather than baseing any of your comments on facts.
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Firstly the "something" you mentioned isn't just a media report of an issue, but it's the lack of actions by Mazda Japan for a major concern from its customers no matter how many they are for more than 10 months. Secondly, at which part I ignored others running "faultlessly" (although it's hard to find any product which is "faultless" nowadays) in the rest of the world as I have pointed out the weather and environment could be the cause? Didn't those diesel CX-5 owners here keep telling us don't buy a diesel if the usage is only for frequent short trips?
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Firstly the "something" you mentioned isn't just a media report of an issue, but it's the lack of actions by Mazda Japan for a major concern from its customers no matter how many they are for more than 10 months. Secondly, at which part I ignored others running "faultlessly" (although it's hard to find any product which is "faultless" nowadays) in the rest of the world as I have pointed out the weather and environment could be the cause? Didn't those diesel CX-5 owners here keep telling us don't buy a diesel if the usage is only for frequent short trips?
I don’t know what went on there or both sides of the story. It’s always down to how it’s reported and Mazda would never respond until they’ve gathered the facts. The short trip advice goes with the potential for oil dilution and as KF models don’t dilute, it’s not applicable.
Another consideration is the quality of fuel in these countries plus the general lack of maintenance. It’s not like there is a dealer in every neighborhood.
In one of my stops in SE Asia, I was on a island that was about 80km by 60km. The main city where all the dealerships were located was on one end. Towns would have their “mechanics” but with today’s modern vehicles, any fixing was guesswork.
In one of my stops in SE Asia, I was on a island that was about 80km by 60km. The main city where all the dealerships were located was on one end. Towns would have their “mechanics” but with today’s modern vehicles, any fixing was guesswork.
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Here's one side of story for you, the official announcement from Mazda in Taiwan. I used Google translator although it translates "Mazda headquarter" into "Social" for some reason.
台灣馬自達汽車聲明稿 - 2017/8/30
台灣馬自達汽車聲明稿 said:
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The quality of diesel fuel should be irrelevant to overheating problem.
Taiwan is not a small 80 X 60 km island and there's a Mazda branch office there with good dealer network. The overheating complaints from those CX-5 owners have been using Mazda dealers for routine maintenance, or Mazda dealers would easily use that as an excuse not to do anything for their overheating or blown head gasket problems. Mazda Taiwan has stopped selling its most popular diesel models for 2019, and why is that?
Just being realistic instead of saying something will happen again because it happened in the past
