the only thing i have made reference to is the approaching plane and its turn by the helicopter..i didn't say the helicopter turned, the cameraman did..i dont' give a **** about the ufo because there is nothing that can do that..i've been talking about the high speed turn the entire time..if anyone is honestly trying to say that something hovering then darting several hundred yards away within a second is a plane, they've smoked far too much dust.
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ufo at the world trade center
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styles_t said:its exactly what it is, a UFO
Unidentified
Flying
Object
They dont know what it is so it falls under the category of UFO
(mswerd) when people think of a 'ufo,' they automatically think of alien life forms and saucer shaped objects. by definition, it is in fact, a UFO. not necessarily an alien craft, but a UFO none the less.
Unidentifiedstyles_t said:its exactly what it is, a UFO
Unidentified
Flying
Object
They dont know what it is so it falls under the category of UFO
Fictitious
Object
(rofl)
im at work and i dont know my user pass so i created a new account.
every part of this video is a hoax, no aircraft can pull off anything witnessed in the video including that high g turn that takes place near the helicopter.
in a f-16C/D block 30/32/40/42/50/52 and the f-22a the air surfaces are controlled thru fly by wire setup. A FLCC (flight control computer) or DFLCC (digital flight control computer) relays signals coming from the tranducers attached to the bottom of the flight control stick to the hydraulic servo actuators that move the wing surfaces. the computers not only relay these signals, but they restrict/sequence them too. both computers, FLCC and DFLCC (one being analog the other digital) prohibit certain g-loads to the airframe and pilot thus making it impossible for the pilot to pull over 9 gs of force reguardless to airspeed/altitude/AOA.
on an f-15E the flight controls are in a mechanical setup. no computers restricting what the pilot cant handle. the blackout/redout is the limit, but the airframe itself cannot tollerate over 9 gs of force. not only is the airframe not cappable of such g-loads, but the f-15E that you refer to is a Strike aircraft with its primary role being A-G targets. this aircraft serves no purpose flying slick, its meant to carry pylons/pods/bombs wich have low g-load tolerences.
the sr-71 blackbird is arguably one of the fastest aircraft known, and it requires a 3 state (U.S. States) turning radius at full burn. a 700+mph turn at 5000ft (i use 5000ft as a estimate to what i saw in the video) would require a very wide turn radius. the faster you go, the wider the turn. also the turn in the video was an acute angle, so its beyond the capabilities of modern day fighter jets. Thrust Vectoring like that of the f-22s is able to perform an acute angle manuever but not at such velocity and g-load as shown in the video, they have a FLCC too wich restricts g-loads.
heres a couple sites referancing g-load tollerences and basic info on the f-15 platform.
click me
or click me
every part of this video is a hoax, no aircraft can pull off anything witnessed in the video including that high g turn that takes place near the helicopter.
in a f-16C/D block 30/32/40/42/50/52 and the f-22a the air surfaces are controlled thru fly by wire setup. A FLCC (flight control computer) or DFLCC (digital flight control computer) relays signals coming from the tranducers attached to the bottom of the flight control stick to the hydraulic servo actuators that move the wing surfaces. the computers not only relay these signals, but they restrict/sequence them too. both computers, FLCC and DFLCC (one being analog the other digital) prohibit certain g-loads to the airframe and pilot thus making it impossible for the pilot to pull over 9 gs of force reguardless to airspeed/altitude/AOA.
on an f-15E the flight controls are in a mechanical setup. no computers restricting what the pilot cant handle. the blackout/redout is the limit, but the airframe itself cannot tollerate over 9 gs of force. not only is the airframe not cappable of such g-loads, but the f-15E that you refer to is a Strike aircraft with its primary role being A-G targets. this aircraft serves no purpose flying slick, its meant to carry pylons/pods/bombs wich have low g-load tolerences.
the sr-71 blackbird is arguably one of the fastest aircraft known, and it requires a 3 state (U.S. States) turning radius at full burn. a 700+mph turn at 5000ft (i use 5000ft as a estimate to what i saw in the video) would require a very wide turn radius. the faster you go, the wider the turn. also the turn in the video was an acute angle, so its beyond the capabilities of modern day fighter jets. Thrust Vectoring like that of the f-22s is able to perform an acute angle manuever but not at such velocity and g-load as shown in the video, they have a FLCC too wich restricts g-loads.
heres a couple sites referancing g-load tollerences and basic info on the f-15 platform.
click me
or click me
what im seeing here is this:
it was not a fighter jet.
thats it. nothing about
"this is not aliens" or "this is NOT a UFO" or even anything to backup the hoax theory. if its a hoax tell me why you think it is...just because you cant explain it? thats not a valid reason....
therefore, i agree with nate. its aliens.
it was not a fighter jet.
thats it. nothing about
"this is not aliens" or "this is NOT a UFO" or even anything to backup the hoax theory. if its a hoax tell me why you think it is...just because you cant explain it? thats not a valid reason....
therefore, i agree with nate. its aliens.
green pic you brought absolutely nothing to the table...i didn't say it was 9g's moreover..we have no way of gauging the speed and g load from just a bad camera..you have no idea what the measurements of that turn were..its impossible to..there is no possible way to even attempt to gauge the speed of that turn..from my estimation that turn is completly possible..the SR71 had little to no relevance on this topic..especially since an F104 starfighter from that era can pull a 1 mile turn circle at 500mph..neither of us have any way of determining what the real specs were on that turn..because, hey! it didn't happen..but if it did..it looks somewhat possible..
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spicymchaggis, your sayin you cant see whats happeing in that video?
sure we cant determine the speed of the aircraft in that video, but you can sure as hell tell its going really ****** fast! (it travels a very long distance in a couple of seconds) altho like you had stated earlier we were past the video being a hoax (we both agree) and on to an aircraft performing a high g turn over 700+mph l ike the one in the video... at least i thought thats what you stated in a post a lil bit back...
anyways, you've said ive brought nothing to the table. what about those hardcore facts about how an aircraft cant pull off a manuever like the one we were discussing in the video at 700+mph (the speed you stated). i havent seen anything on your case that it can. ill reread your posts...
nope nada, hmmm weird
i used the sr-71 as an example to speed to turn ratio... the point still stands, the faster you go the wider the turn.
an f-104 is a relic dude... i highly doubt it can turn the way you state. ill have to look into it.
later yo
sure we cant determine the speed of the aircraft in that video, but you can sure as hell tell its going really ****** fast! (it travels a very long distance in a couple of seconds) altho like you had stated earlier we were past the video being a hoax (we both agree) and on to an aircraft performing a high g turn over 700+mph l ike the one in the video... at least i thought thats what you stated in a post a lil bit back...
anyways, you've said ive brought nothing to the table. what about those hardcore facts about how an aircraft cant pull off a manuever like the one we were discussing in the video at 700+mph (the speed you stated). i havent seen anything on your case that it can. ill reread your posts...
nope nada, hmmm weird
i used the sr-71 as an example to speed to turn ratio... the point still stands, the faster you go the wider the turn.
an f-104 is a relic dude... i highly doubt it can turn the way you state. ill have to look into it.
later yo
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what?...aliens?!?!
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the only way something could move like that is if it was not bound by gravity. it was lando calrissian- space pimp
F/A 22's are able to sustain speeds in excess of Mach 2 even at a few hundred feet. you do not need much humidity at all to create that stream.SpicyMchaggis said:given the altitude, and degree the piloted banked at, it can only be one of a few u.s. af planes. An F15 or the newer F22A could do it..I would however be skeptical due to the speed though. The plane wasn't that close to the helicopter, but close enough to push wash onto it..there is no way it would of stayed stable in the air given that plane's speed and AOA. I broke it down frame by frame, definetly looks like the F22A..But the angle it took to regain it's AOA was extreme..Moreover, to create a wash stream like that, it not only would have to be an extremely humid day, but the plane would also have to be moving incredibly fast..Its angle and speed would be more believable if it was a SAM..AF planes don't leave remaining visible wash (like a commericial airliner) It all looks a little fishy..FYI..the plane would of most likely left newark nj as a first response, and it sure has hell wouldn't be alone..I find it hard to believe a tactical response plane would careen that close to a helicopter and two massive towers all by its one'sies just to acquire an AOA..it would remain at an elevated altitude and identify anything in the air..would definetly not dive headlong at it...
(lol) (rofl)mooS mooS said:The Cheese Steak Sandwich ?... oh Hell yeah ...!
Mikey444 said:F/A 22's are able to sustain speeds in excess of Mach 2 even at a few hundred feet. you do not need much humidity at all to create that stream.
please tell me I'm not the only one who's LOL'ing right now (rofl)
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