Turbohoses Shortram Intake

Rawyzf

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2011 Mazda CX-9 GT AWD
Have you guys seen the new Turbohoses Shortram Intake? I saw it on there website (link).

I called and talked with Hoover about it, he is great to deal with and very straight forward and honest.

It should be out in a few weeks, can't wait to get my hands on one.

Anyways...just a big FYI for everyone.

-Ryan
 
Good quality is gonna cost a few bucks. In my opinion it's worth it though. They have proven that the quality of their products is excellent. The TH SMIC is the best SMIC available for the MSP. Their Hard Pipes aren't to shabby either :).

-Ryan
 
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Rawyzf said:
Good quality is gonna cost a few bucks. In my opinion it's worth it though. They have proven that the quality of their products is excellent. The TH SMIC is the best SMIC available for the MSP. Their Hard Pipes aren't to shabby either :).

-Ryan

oh, i'm not doubting their products. that's why i bought their stuff, for the build quality and gains. it's just that for a "simple" mod like a short ram, $400 is steep. if it was priced around $225, then it would seem a little more reasonable.
 
ya you pay for high quality, but 400 for a sri is way too much. i know there is testing and such that goes into it, but 400? come on ..

great smic and hardpipes, though.
 
Because of past experiences we have had with other vendors using our R&D results before making their own products, we won't post any of our dyno results.

Yes, it can look expensive from a buyers perspective, especially if you don't see a full picture, but if we showed you all the pieces, it's more than a tube and filter.
There's a special hose necessary to transition from the turbo to the first pipe, 2 90 degree silicone hoses to reroute the BOV, bracket to hold the entire intake in place, transtion hoses, couplers, PCV return hose, a bunch of clalmps, bracket to relocate the resevoir, polished aluminum pipe, our gigantic airram velocity stack and then a filter that takes in air not only from the sides but the top as well.

The difference is the amount of R&D we put into our products and the airram we use on our intake vs. just using a filter. Maybe for some of you guys on a budget we can supply you without the airram, but that's the difference between our system and everyone elses....

Turbohoses

Please email us if you have any questions....
sales@turbohoses.com
 
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Because of past experiences we have had with other vendors using our R&D results before making their own products, we won't post any of our dyno results.

I don't get it, they used your dyno sheets to help them develop a competing product? Sounds backwards to me.

I'm just skeptical of any product that doesn't show hard results. I don't understand what there is to lose from showing the dyno.
 
Hey....I didn't mean to start a little war here, I just wanted to let eveyone know that Turbohoses has this coming out.

Everyone does business their own way. If the boat is still floating it must be good way of doing it.

-Ryan
 
is it larger diameter piping than the injen and aem intakes or something? i mean, i paid 200-something for my injen, and i see it as a very good-quality product that has performed great.
 
the piping looks to be about the same size, but it funnels out to allow a much larger filter from the looks of it.
 
peepsalot said:
I don't get it, they used your dyno sheets to help them develop a competing product? Sounds backwards to me.

I'm just skeptical of any product that doesn't show hard results. I don't understand what there is to lose from showing the dyno.

not that I agree or disagree with it but I think he means they took excellent numbers proven in dyno sheets and then copied the design of the intake rather than tinkering and fiddling and trying out different designs on the intake on their own and dynoing it each time to figure out what worked best.

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I've seen it when it was first made. My car was used. This intake looks so much better in person. Great quality and craftsmanship. I highly recommend it!

darrell
 
Slug420,

You're pretty close to our reasons for not posting our dyno plot.

Developing a product is basically a gamble. The inventor hopes that their ideas will have results which will provide a product that will sell due to the overall results. They will gamble designing the product and hopefully get it right within a few tries, go to the dyno and hopefully have results from all of their hard work. What makes it easier is the simple fact that another company made some gains and they are able to feel confident that they can do the same by making a similar product. However, the difference is that when a product is finished, another individual can simply look at the photos and make their version based on the photos and design specifications. They can cut the costs soley based on the R&D they didn't spend the time/money on. Basically, the investment was minimal. Furthermore, most of these businesses are home based on they do not have the overhead of running a full fabrication facility.

Everyone on this forum knows we dyno our products on our own dyno. This is much more expensive for us as our dyno isn't the regular dyno that most people use. Our dyno has full eddy-current load control and we also cross reference boost on the dyno graph. We are also proud of the fact that our "dynojet" has the only 4 channel module that allows us to cross reference boost across the country. There will be more later in the year, but we are definitely the first. We don't just get a final number, we know all the data in between which is more important than WOT for those meticulous enough to appreciate that type of performance.


When we first made the SMIC, there was already another version on the market that very few if any were sold. The gains were minimal and not very impressive. So why would we make our own SMIC based on another companies low hp gains and successfully develope a similar product that makes almost 17whp gain in conjunction with our piping kit? We have a lot of faith in our ability and experience to know when a product can be improved on and go by our test results only.

Almost every intake we've tested makes about 4-6whp, all of them, including ours. However, spool time is a different issue and that's where the difference is. Also, say goodbye to the "turkey".... (rockon)

TurboHoses

Hey, did I mention this really light weight exhaust system that JIC-magic has supplied some of the parts to us and we have testing........ (eek2)
Stay tuned.......
 
Damn, I like the turkey especially now that my CAI is on and my spool time has been kickass!
Where's the turkey love man? Oh poor dejected Turkey where art thou?
 
yashooa said:
Damn, I like the turkey especially now that my CAI is on and my spool time has been kickass!
Where's the turkey love man? Oh poor dejected Turkey where art thou?


Everyone wants the Turkey, especially at Thanksgiving time... :)
 

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