they can do it with FWD, but it just doesn't make sense to hamper the engine for FWD, mind as well go all out with the AWD.
Power figures were leaked in Australia:
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Mazda 3 Turbo to have 170kW/420Nm, all-wheel drive
There's a hotter Mazda 3 coming, and it'll pack 170kW and 420Nm from its turbocharged 2.5-litre engine.www.carexpert.com.au
That's 227hp and 310tq. I like our chances of getting a tune for our 2.5t a lot better now.
Wait, isn't the Civic Type R FWD only? Doesn't that have north of 300 HP? If Honda can do it, so can Mazda!
And will Mazda allow the 3 to be faster than everything else they offer?
Yeah, I see your point. News has come out since your reply that it appears the 3 will simply get the 2.5T with the 6-speed automatic found in the CX-5/9 and 6.Honestly, I doubt this will be the car for you. This most likely will simply be the existing 2.5T with the 6 speed automatic in the AWD Mazda 3. This is not a hot hatch but a refined (signature) Mazda 3.
Yeah, I see your point. News has come out since your reply that it appears the 3 will simply get the 2.5T with the 6-speed automatic found in the CX-5/9 and 6.
I'm still holding out some hope for some kind of special tuning, but I know it's a VERY long shot and pretty much not going to happen. It'll be a very pleasant surprise though.
That said, I've had a Mazda 3 loaner vehicle while my car has been in for service and I actually really liked it. The thing with Mazda is that they make cars that drive and perform really well but they don't necessarily market them like other "hot" versions of cars on the market are despite having competitive handling feel and performance.
I think having a faster version of the already-great-handling 3 with AWD will still be a compelling option that I know I'll at least test drive. No manual is still a bummer though. I suppose we'll see for sure tomorrow, but I'm not holding out any hope for that.
Today's the day where Mazda releases the info.Excellent analysis everyone, juicy stuff!
Am I missing something or do we have an official name and release date yet?
I'm just guessing, but I think the AWD 2.5T will not be exclusive to a trim level, which would be freakin' awesome. The Mazda3 has a different naming convention for trims/packages compared to the Miata, Mazda6, CX-3, CX-5, and CX-9. They call their trim levels Select Package, Preferred Package, and Premium Package (same as the CX-30). Since you can get AWD as an option on any of these trims for the Mazda3, and since they haven't stated that it is exclusive to a trim level, I think it's a fairly safe assumption to make. By comparison, the 2.5T is the only powertrain option on GT Reserve and Signature CX-5s and Mazda6s. Quoted from the website:
"The 2021 Mazda3 2.5 Turbo will deliver 250 hp and 320 lb-ft torque, coupled with our predictive i-Activ AWD®. All of which work in harmony to respond effortlessly to every impulse and make you feel something that no other car can."
The way it is written makes it sound like they will offer the 2.5T as an engine option on all trim levels of the Mazda3, with the only prerequisite being AWD (since they state that AWD is standard).
Right now this is just wishful thinking, but I think a sub $30k car that is AWD, does 0-60 in about 6s, handles well, has a bunch of safety tech, and an above average interior (for the segment) would be a great seller for Mazda.
Mazda Canada is saying it's only available on the GT trim, which is the top trim in Canada.
I'm just guessing, but I think the AWD 2.5T will not be exclusive to a trim level, which would be freakin' awesome. The Mazda3 has a different naming convention for trims/packages compared to the Miata, Mazda6, CX-3, CX-5, and CX-9. They call their trim levels Select Package, Preferred Package, and Premium Package (same as the CX-30). Since you can get AWD as an option on any of these trims for the Mazda3, and since they haven't stated that it is exclusive to a trim level, I think it's a fairly safe assumption to make. By comparison, the 2.5T is the only powertrain option on GT Reserve and Signature CX-5s and Mazda6s. Quoted from the website:
"The 2021 Mazda3 2.5 Turbo will deliver 250 hp and 320 lb-ft torque, coupled with our predictive i-Activ AWD®. All of which work in harmony to respond effortlessly to every impulse and make you feel something that no other car can."
The way it is written makes it sound like they will offer the 2.5T as an engine option on all trim levels of the Mazda3, with the only prerequisite being AWD (since they state that AWD is standard).
Right now this is just wishful thinking, but I think a sub $30k car that is AWD, does 0-60 in about 6s, handles well, has a bunch of safety tech, and an above average interior (for the segment) would be a great seller for Mazda.
EDIT: Just read up on Mazda Canada's info. An MSRP of $24.3-26.3k USD (before freight and PDE, taxes, title or additional fees) is much lower than I had expected.
This is great news! I am almost certain that the 0-60 MPH time will dip below 6 seconds.
Edit: I fully anticipate though that pricing on the AWD turbo hatch will get to the low-mid $30k range though as the AWD hatch right now comes in at about $29k for a more fully featured trim. That is, unless Mazda decides to lower the price of the rest of the entire lineup for some reason.
Sedan | Hatchback | |
Mazda3 GT Turbo AWD | $32,900 | $33,900 |
Mazda3 GT Turbo AWD Premium Package | $34,600 | $35,600 |
Mazda3 100th Anniversary Edition AWD Turbo | $36,100 | $37,100 |
Canadian Pricing:
MSRP FOR THE 2021 MAZDA3 TURBO IS AS FOLLOWS:
MSRP does not include $1,750 for freight and PDE, taxes, title or additional fees. Dealers set actual sale prices.
Sedan Hatchback Mazda3 GT Turbo AWD $32,900 $33,900 Mazda3 GT Turbo AWD Premium Package $34,600 $35,600 Mazda3 100th Anniversary Edition AWD Turbo $36,100 $37,100