Turbo upgraded question

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I am trying to get 320 hp to wheel out of my msp was wondering if I would be able to use garret gt28r with my 3 inch turbo back exhaust made by ghl. IF not should I just get gt28rs the cost is more.

 

[kamon8404]

Yeah, you will have to buy a built motor first to do it safely. Along with an EMS to boot.

 

[Kansei]

I'd get the GT28RS.. why downgrade from a dual ball bearing turbo to one that isn't?

 

[Captain KRM P5]

you'll never make it past 300 without the following;

- lower compression forged pistons
- forged connecting rods
- standalone engine managment
- larger injectors and higher flow fuel pump

once you have all that, thats when its time to talk about larger turbos and turbo back exhausts.

 

[Bala]

Hey Cap, what's the stock FSDE compression ratio?

*edit 9.1:1 (RTM)

 

[Captain KRM P5]

yes, 9.1:1

 

[210_ZOOM]

and a whole lot of money to go with it.

 

[kamon8404]

Not to mention that less that 5% of the proteges on this forum are 300+ whp.

 

[MSPHXC]

Tryin not to thread jack, but whats a decent standalone for someone in the market?

 

[Bala]

Not really a jack - It's relavent to the thread. There are many good ones out there, with the front-runners probably being Haltech and Microtech. I've got a Microtech LT-10s.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

microtech really is the way to, steve at NSN has done much to make it the be-all end-all option for the protege tuners

 

[kamon8404]

I heard that microtech has problems with starting the car though ... any comments on this?

 

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I was thinking of going with map ecu 2 and perrin fuel rail with 550 injector 255 fuel pump and fuel pressure reg and now gt28rs.

 

[jmv]

well......

you're definitely not going to get near 320whp with the stock block. We've got rods the size of toothpicks.

 

[mryellermp5]

who was the guy, i think his name was Nick (if he's still around) i heard he can cram the guts of a gt28 into the the stock MSP 25..someone correct me if i'm wrong....

 

[ItsSlow]

well......

you're definitely not going to get near 320whp with the stock block. We've got rods the size of toothpicks.

^^what he said.. The rods in these cars cant even hold the factory rating much less anymore..

 

[Kansei]

who was the guy, i think his name was Nick (if he's still around) i heard he can cram the guts of a gt28 into the the stock MSP 25..someone correct me if i'm wrong....

mpnick

at least the compressor wheel of the gt28

 

[mryellermp5]

thanks, has anyone had this done? if so wat was the gains?

mpnick

at least the compressor wheel of the gt28

 

[yashooa]

mpnick

at least the compressor wheel of the gt28

It depends upon which stage you want. Stage 1, Stage 2 etc.
Stage I is Compressor side machined and upgraded wheel.
Stage II is Compressor side and exhaust side machined and upgraded wheels.
Both Stage I & II include the manifold and s-pipe porting.

It has been a long time but there was a dyno chart on here somewhere and I "think" it was a stage 1 making 300-315 WHP at 15PSI.
Believe me there was a big bru-ha-ha about all this a couple years back.

Ok, this is from a former MSP owner who was a Mazda tech. He made over 300 1/4 mile passes on his stock MSP block before he blew it up.
From BlckZoomZoom: "I made around 260-270whp on the stock set-up and around 310-320 on the Stage1 MpNicks turbo."

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123615830&page=4&highlight=stage+Nick

 

[mryellermp5]

yeah i've been reading that thread @14 pages ..it's pretty interesting...

It depends upon which stage you want. Stage 1, Stage 2 etc.
Stage I is Compressor side machined and upgraded wheel.
Stage II is Compressor side and exhaust side machined and upgraded wheels.
Both Stage I & II include the manifold and s-pipe porting.

It has been a long time but there was a dyno chart on here somewhere and I "think" it was a stage 1 making 300-315 WHP at 15PSI.
Believe me there was a big bru-ha-ha about all this a couple years back.

Ok, this is from a former MSP owner who was a Mazda tech. He made over 300 1/4 mile passes on his stock MSP block before he blew it up.
From BlckZoomZoom: "I made around 260-270whp on the stock set-up and around 310-320 on the Stage1 MpNicks turbo."

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123615830&page=4&highlight=stage+Nick