** Turbo questions **

is it not the same clutch? i was under the impression that the mazdaspeed models did not have any sort of upgraded clutch.
 
or you could upgrade the engine management to fuel and ignition...instead of the fuel only control that comes with the hiboost kit...it is an optional upgrade from hiboost.

What would you guys suggest (sp?) ???? microtech?? is that fuel & ignition??
thanks..

p.s. I ordered the hiboost turbo kit today!!!!!!!(nana)
 
Clutches are rated by their torque, not their horsepower. The MP3 has a similar clutch to the MSP (the MSP was slightly revised to handle more torque; no idea on the specs though), and I know someone in a P5 who held near 250lbs of WHEEL torque before it started letting go so...the stage 1 will be JUST fine...
as for management, I really don't know what to recommend, but I don't think you need to go as far as the Microtech/AEM...an piggyback is a bare minimum though, such as the one from Split Second.
 
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Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the MP3 already come with one of the "V's deleted= VTCS or VICS...so swapping the ECUs for a regular protege or P5 may not work....
 
hiboost kits come with the haltech f10x, which only controls fuel...they have an option to upgrade to a haltech e6x which controls fuel and timing. jared which kit did you order? i would suggest trying to upgrade the ems to the e6x straight from hiboost if you still can.. if you just got the budget version-the version without engine management or blowoff valve, i would look into getting the mcrotech..from what i have read it is the most tunable one for the protege.
 
Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the MP3 already come with one of the "V's deleted= VTCS or VICS...so swapping the ECUs for a regular protege or P5 may not work....

It comes without VTCS so it will throw a cel. There should be an easy fix since a lot of regular Protege owners remove the VTCS. Plus all the MP3 owners who have swapped ECUs to go turbo.

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From a quick search all I could find was this post by TheMAN.
it can be fixed with proper electrical know-how. you'll need to get a VTCS solenoid and hook it up straight to the ECU at pin 73 for one terminal and hook up the other terminal by splicing to the wires coming off of pin 97 or 71... this can all be done with a few inches of 16 gauge wire by the ECU and the VTCS solenoid can be hidden there... you really must have the wiring diagrams and skill to do this... otherwise have someone do it
 
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A stock P5 clutch will not hold a Hiboost set-up at 8psi for more than a couple of days at around 220ft/lbs of torque. I was going easy on it at first but the top of 2nd gear was enough to let go!
 
hiboost kits come with the haltech f10x, which only controls fuel...they have an option to upgrade to a haltech e6x which controls fuel and timing. jared which kit did you order? i would suggest trying to upgrade the ems to the e6x straight from hiboost if you still can.. if you just got the budget version-the version without engine management or blowoff valve, i would look into getting the mcrotech..from what i have read it is the most tunable one for the protege.

I ordered the one with the kit with haltechf10x...(birthday)
(help)So correct if Im wrong but...... If I swap a p5 ecu i will need to do a little extra wiring ( according to the threads above ?? ) Is this right????

I plan on rebuilding the motor and crankin up the boost in the future, so would it be adviceable to go with a piggyback or a standalone system so I have complete tunning control?????
 
hell the stock clutch holds up fine to decent numbers.

Replacing all your vac lines with silicon ones is always a good idea though not necessary

I guess I will find out if i need a new clutch when it starts to slips....

Is there like a " full sillicon hose kit" for the Protege that I can get all vac lines in one pack???? :confused:
 
i would try to change your order with hiboost to get the haltech e6x instead of the f10x...they would obviously take a little more cash...but with your plans it is advisable to go ahead and get the fuel and timing contol now...and plus with the e6x you won't have to trade ecus. BTW the f10x is a "piggyback" but it only controls fuel...as where the e6x contols a lot more. Just get in touch with hiboost, that will help you out a lot.
 
I got in a little over my head maybe..(smash)... I cant afford a good ems right now....Im going to trade my ecu for stock protege ecu..



** Any idea of vac. lines im going to need??? **
 
that works well too...and the plus side to that is you can charge a pretty penny for your ecu as it is a premium item...very limited and hard to find...you can always upgrade your ems later..keep us updated on your progress though
 
I heard of people putting in a MSP ECU seeing it was programed for a turbo set up. I'd search that first.

I wouldnt trade that MP3 ECU straight up though.. it's worth way more then a stock.
 
yeah, the mp3 ecu is worth way more...and it is very rare...so you can basically charge anything you want to...but i think he is getting the f10x with his kit anyways..so no need for the msp ecu...it will actually make him do more tuning with the msp ecu...as the base map on the f10x would not work well with the msp ecu.
 
I heard of people putting in a MSP ECU seeing it was programed for a turbo set up. I'd search that first.

I wouldnt trade that MP3 ECU straight up though.. it's worth way more then a stock.

People desire the part because they feel it will give them extra power.

Some of the power is delivered by the intake manifold, so just putting this on will not be an "Experience" by itself..

You guys are thinking this is some sort of holy grail of awesomeness, it's no big deal.

To answer the last post, Sure Standalone FTW, however, people are normally not interested in the cost of the unit and then the large cost of dyno time to get it tuned.
 
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