Turbo Manifold

[nk2a]

I assume this is going to have all the proper fittings for the stock MSP setup: EGR, O2 sensor, etc.?

yup direct replacement

 

[Lodivigo]

Just curious, does he plan on doing any dyno testing? I'm sure it'll flow better than the stocker, just wondering how much better. Looks to be a nice piece, keep us updated.

 

[Speed3.5]

did he mentioned what material they will use ??
and keep us update pls

It be a race who's gonna have the many first for sale (rofl2)

info from Leen Steed

"Manifold will be in 3 sections. One section will have the runners away from
the head and that will tie to a 2 piece sandwich which has the sections
going down to the flange. The runners are going to be bigger at the head
than the stock inlets which will allow for a bit of port matching or porting
oversize if desired. (yeah! stock port/header match is disgusting!!).
This way even if you don't port the step will be on the outside where it
can't slow down the gasses.

The runners are also tapering outwards away from the head which acts like an
expansion chamber at the point where the runners turn towards the flange
assisting flow around the corner.

You can never be sure what will happen to performance till you try it but I
am expecting a slight gain over stock and more for modified cars + it won't
crack!"

 

[Lodivigo]

did he mentioned what material they will use ??
and keep us update pls

My manifolds are cut from steel billet on CNC machines and are quite the work of art.

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[nk2a]

Just curious, does he plan on doing any dyno testing? I'm sure it'll flow better than the stocker, just wondering how much better. Looks to be a nice piece, keep us updated.

not sure about the dino - it depends on the test car and if some one local wants to go out of pocket - i do think it will be flow tested against the stock mani however.

 

[steedspeed]

I will probably get one of you guys to do dyno testing for me. Hard to know what result will be but my billet manifold used by Horsepower Freaks on their M3 kit gave identical performance to their tubular prototype manifolds. I just finished an intake manifold which was dyno tested in California by my customer. I shortened the runners by half compared to stock and all the "experts" said it would suffer in the bottom end. In practise it gained 15 to 25 hp from idle to 4000! Nobody was more surprised than me as I was aiming for top end power. My days of trying to predict results are over LOL!. Figure I'll make a manifold and someone can test it and that will be all we need to know.

 

[SOCAL MSP]

I will probably get one of you guys to do dyno testing for me. Hard to know what result will be but my billet manifold used by Horsepower Freaks on their M3 kit gave identical performance to their tubular prototype manifolds. I just finished an intake manifold which was dyno tested in California by my customer. I shortened the runners by half compared to stock and all the "experts" said it would suffer in the bottom end. In practise it gained 15 to 25 hp from idle to 4000! Nobody was more surprised than me as I was aiming for top end power. My days of trying to predict results are over LOL!. Figure I'll make a manifold and someone can test it and that will be all we need to know.

Sweet!!!! The intake mani you made, what car was it for???

 

[Speed3.5]

well msp are in need for a better intake many as well so if you can make that happen it will be very very app.

 

[orng1]

You do have to remember that this is a 140hp motor. You don't need that much flow at that level, well we do...

 

[steedspeed]

Dosn't the Mazda speed protege have 225hp stock?

The intake was a replacement for the upper plenum on the 22R Toyota as found in Celicas and 4runners etc. They are a popular turbocharging candidate as the motor is very strong with big rods and forged crank.

Think I'll have to swap my 1.8T Golf for a MS protege so I can do some R&D on intakes eh! Dosn't anyone make an intake already?

I'll probably have the Header CAD file done today so I'll post some pics for all to see.

Has anyone tried one of those tube headers shown on this topic? Looks pretty good! Don't know if he has the factory fittings on there though.

Here is some food for thought! Take a look at the Hahn Racecraft site and look at their "Log" style manifolds. They have run 9 seconds with that manifold on a Neon! Makes you think dosn't it?

 

[magnumP5]

Dosn't the Mazda speed protege have 225hp stock?

The intake was a replacement for the upper plenum on the 22R Toyota as found in Celicas and 4runners etc. They are a popular turbocharging candidate as the motor is very strong with big rods and forged crank.

Think I'll have to swap my 1.8T Golf for a MS protege so I can do some R&D on intakes eh! Dosn't anyone make an intake already?

I'll probably have the Header CAD file done today so I'll post some pics for all to see.

Has anyone tried one of those tube headers shown on this topic? Looks pretty good! Don't know if he has the factory fittings on there though.

Here is some food for thought! Take a look at the Hahn Racecraft site and look at their "Log" style manifolds. They have run 9 seconds with that manifold on a Neon! Makes you think dosn't it?

Nope, unfortunately we're blessed with 170 hp of unforged stockness. It doesn't take too much to get up around 200 whp but the problems start there, no need to go into that here though. I like the design - very different from anything offered before. I can't wait to see some pre-production models or something.

Oh yeah, side note. That intake you're talking about - would that work on the 22RE engine? I got a '86 pickup as my other vehicle and I'll probably start working on that one soon. I was looking into a lot of LC Engineering stuff but I didn't know many other people offered aftermarket parts - gotta website?

/threadjack

 

[Lodivigo]

Think I'll have to swap my 1.8T Golf for a MS protege so I can do some R&D on intakes eh! Dosn't anyone make an intake already?

Not yet but I believe CS is working on one. The stock IM from the 626 is a popular swap around here and there are decent gains using that over the stock MSP IM. A well designed IM for the MSP would probably make more power, but who knows until it's tried. Not alot of aftermarket support here so new stuff is always welcome.

 

[steedspeed]

Oh! and to answer the question. Yes, it will fit the 22re manifold.

 

[daedalus]

This thing looks badass... quality looks unlike anything out for the MSP right now. You've got my order if you ever produce them.

 

[SOCAL MSP]

This thing looks badass... quality looks unlike anything out for the MSP right now. You've got my order if you ever produce them.

Same here!! Im always looking for something better than stock....

 

[steedspeed]

I ordered material today. Once I have a prototype I'll need a victim/tester to see how it fits + evaluate performance for me. Id put a pic on here but have no idea how to do that LOL!

 

[yashart_mp3]

email the pic to me and ill post it up...

 

[SOCAL MSP]

I ordered material today. Once I have a prototype I'll need a victim/tester to see how it fits + evaluate performance for me. Id put a pic on here but have no idea how to do that LOL!

How long till this product in the works is done??

 

[orng1]

Sounds like you may have already found your sucker I mean volunteer.

 

[Antoine]

I ordered material today. Once I have a prototype I'll need a victim/tester to see how it fits + evaluate performance for me. Id put a pic on here but have no idea how to do that LOL!

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