Throw Down! MS3 260whp 300wtq

(*cough*) AWD (*cough*)

AWD helps with the launch and thus the E.T., but the added drivetrain loss ends up hurting the trap speed. Trap speed is almost entirely dependent on the amount of power your car is making, unless you grossly mess up driving.
 
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is everybody "feelin the love" yet?

let's try to keep it civil guys. we are all here to learn from each other, share our experiences, and most importantly ENCOURAGE one another to post up real results. dyno sheets, time slips, lap times, and the occasional (cough - sanctioned - cough) road race outcome.
 
Thank you

Yes and does cali have high humidity? Water in the air is worse than hot DRY air...

Hmm 13.5 in a 255AWHP car is pretty slow if you ask me. Considering Evos have less AWHP stock and run similar times.

Stock Evo's typically run low 14's at LACR, with well driven ones in the same range as my car. I've seen poorly driven ones on particularly bad days run 15's. BTW, a stock Evo is only 5 whp behind my car on the same dyno and weigh a little less. So I guess that just goes to show that the ole Dynojet is pretty dang accurate (poke)

LACR is a very slow track. The problem there is high altitude, high heat, a consistent headwind and a track that tilts uphill at the end. If you can run a decent time there, you can run a great time anywhere else. BTW, since you obviously don't know, humidity has a smaller effect on power output than temperature.(wedge) The effect of high temperatures is compounded in an intercooled forced induction vehicle since the IC becomes less efficient and intake charge temperature rise dramatically making the car far more knock prone which leads to timing pulls and greatly reduced power output. Long story short, you'll have to find another excuse... (kiss)
 
BTW, I just did a quick search and found a stock MS3 that ran 15.7@88.7mph at LACR. I think that gives everyone a good idea how slow that track is, and a good frame of reference to my times/traps there relative to my dyno results. Here's the post from the guy who ran the 15.7:

i went to LACR last night, which is the 1st time i've ever been to a drag strip, my fastest time was 15.7 @ 88.7mph
my reaction time was 1.002 ?? i think thats bad, plus wheel spin
& that was my fastest time. that kinda burned me out.
i know i'm not a pro, & i heard that Track really sucks but 15's

i think i should add that i was at an elavasion of 2750+
 
Pis,

let me know when Calspeedway does its next open run day.

I need to get a time slip and shut some of these punks up.
 
Pis,

let me know when Calspeedway does its next open run day.

I need to get a time slip and shut some of these punks up.

Battle of the Imports is this Sunday, and then Street Legal drags is on August 11th. I'll go too and if you want me to try my hand at running your car, I'd be more than happy to give it a whirl (first)(laugh)
 
bummer. both days fall on my every-other weekends that I have my kids. and my company's picnic event is on 8/11.

it is something that I'd like to try once. but I know that my passion is for real track driving. I just love it!
 
I just did dyno my completely stock MS3. SAE Corrected was 246.12 HP and 276.65. Another Car with just a cold air intake was putting down 268.44 HP and 296.74. Looks like these cars are underrated with the newer program in the ECU. Ricky Carr got some vid's of 3 of the MS3's and a MS6 on the rollers. I'll scan the sheets in when I get a chance.
 
the reflash everyones talking about?

Mine came with it, but yeah. The A/F Ratio looks better than the early dyno's I saw too. It only goes REALLY rich after 5500 RPM, which is when the power takes a nose dive (assuming due to throttle plate closing). Just looking at the comparison sheet with the car with the CAI, it's at about 12.5:1 until just after 4k RPM then it goes below 12, but never below 10:1. A tune might not even be worth it if a CAI can fix the A/F Ratio sufficiently like this. (Yes I know a tune can increase power even more so, but I just want the A/F at a more normal rate for a FI vehicle.)

Also, numbers were identical with the hood closed and the fans blowing on it as they were with the hood open and the fans blowing on the IC.

Here's the dyno sheet with both on it. My car's obviously the lower powered run, and I believe Vod's car was the other.

dyno1.jpg
 
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