The King has been Dethroned!?!?

Did anyone noticed all the plastic tubing like the MSP? All that spells trouble.

I love this quote
The Cobalt SS has become a surprisingly cool car, but cool kids aren't going to give it a chance. The SS is stuck in a Cavalier-style body that just doesn't resonate with them. Poor interior packaging and down-market furnishings make it worse.
 
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Cobalt SS>MS3.............................who cares?

Hopefully Ford will get their head out their a$$ and bring over the Focus RS/ST.
 
I applaud the efforts from GM, I am not going to spit hatred at this car especially since it is so very capable. I predict within 3 months we will see an announcement from GM/Saturn that there will be a REDLINE ASTRA aka ASTRA VXR, which is a bad boy in the UK. GM is finally listening to the public and putting out proper products. However I still love my speed3, I just love the idea of competition in this segment of the car market.

I think the next one to watch is Hyundai, the new Genesis platform will be a screamer if the aftermarket picks up on it.
 
I dont think we have anything to worry about...talk to some SS supercharged owners and they will tell you anymore power from that motor and the trannys will be dropping like flies, and with no current tranny upgrades there wont be any stage kits from GM.
 
WOW some of you guys are REALLLLY hung up on the whole "its a few tenths faster". If the Speed3 was a 2 door they would both probably have identicle speeds.

And sorry but if you bought the speed3 only because of its 1/4 mile time then feel free to trade it in.

When its all said and done, and they soon will say and do it all in a comparo, im sure the speed3 will come out on top. And if it doesnt oh well. In the car industry being on top for 2 straight years is one hell of an accomplishment.
 
Cobalt SS>MS3.............................who cares?

Hopefully Ford will get their head out their a$$ and bring over the Focus RS/ST.

Cobalt SS > MS3? Nah, it might be .3tenths faster in the 1/4 stock but that doesn't make it own a MS3.

What do you mean my Ford having that Heads in their Asses? You make it sound like the MS3 is a piece of shyt or something..
 
I read the thread title and thought," what the hell happened to Richard Petty" ?
And for you non believers out there, the other "King" (Elvis) really is dead.
 
I think he means that not bringing the euro spec focus to NA is stupid not htat the ms3 is bad.

Oh okay.

I don't know.. All the negativity on this forum has me seriously thinking about trading this thing in the near future. All this s*** about it being a FORD and Motor's blowing up, Transmissions crapping out, etc. Just sucks to buy a new car and have to worry about something breaking so easily. Maybe I'll just get a BMW 335i and call it a day
 
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interior does suck really bad...crappy lookin plastic, awkward seats, i am DONE with two doors i hate letting people in/out of the back seat...also the two cars are kinda in a different class coupe vs hatch....and if you notice what the review says there are a LOT of things they mention that are options sooo im guessing that it might come out more expensive than the ms3..eh? eh?
 
someone has stirred the fanboi bees nest heh.

LOL, that would be me! LOL a good debate is worth it every now and then. I actually welcome other players in the sport compact market. I think it will only push the aftermarket harder for platforms like ours.
 

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