The highest goodness/dollar ratio wheels ever...

I'm a poor graduate student who got the MS3 because I needed a fun, reliable car to replace my swapped STI. My commute is 50 miles round trip, so I am definitely not using the summer tires to their potential. I would need to replace them, and 18" tires are more expensive than 17" tires, so I sold the wheel/tire combo for $750.

I wanted a 17" cheap, lightweight wheel and I got really lucky on craigslist. If you can find a similar wheel they are spectacular for winter or track duty. 17" Mazda Millenia wheels are are 16 lbs each and I think they look great!

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It looks factory! I also bought some slightly used Bridgestone Potenza RE92s with a thousand miles on them from a 07 WRX for a total cost (wheels + tires) of $200!

Just wanted to share... you don't have to spend $500 for track/winter wheels.
 
Makes it look kinda plain, but I can understand being the poor student as I was one once. It's nice that they are so light though! Dang, I wonder if a set of factory Mazda 16's would clear the brakes...
 
16lbs is amazing for your outlay. Notice any difference in handling or mileage? If I was was driving my car in the winter I would be all over this.
 
i'm into it man! i've been thinking about using some OEM mazda wheels for awhile. i still might get some FD wheels. i don't understand why people don't like 16s and 17s. that's what the mazda 3's come with stock... i like em!
 
I'm sure several people already know this, but... What are fd wheels?

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hehe, I know what the FD means, I just dont see why people cant simply call them "rx7" instead of FD, its like everyone's trying to use cool slang ;) If they had said RX7 you would know what it meant
 
Shows your JDM-ness when you say FD :-p

Nice find - I'll have to see if I can find those for my winter wheels.
Hell of a lot less expensive than the 16lb Volks I just bought LOL!
 
I'll say only this..

I know i'm new to the import scene, but I've never seen a group of owners who'd rather make their wheels smaller rather than larger or staying the same. Again, new to imports, so maybe they do it all the time with other cars. If you can't afford the car, why sell the wheels and tires that came with the car? I wonder if SUV owners are going to start doing this to afford gas?

But I can't help but say that it takes away so much of the finesse of the car. Maybe some like that because it's more sleeper-style, but man, that looks god awful to me..

Just my .02
 
hehe, I know what the FD means, I just dont see why people cant simply call them "rx7" instead of FD, its like everyone's trying to use cool slang ;) If they had said RX7 you would know what it meant

Saying FD is easier than saying third generation RX7.

I'll say only this..

I know i'm new to the import scene, but I've never seen a group of owners who'd rather make their wheels smaller rather than larger or staying the same.

There are definite performance advantages in using a smaller diameter wheel. The moment arm of a larger wheel is greater, so even when the wheels weigh the same, the smaller diameter wheel requires less torque to turn. This is why you don't see giant wheels on race cars; larger wheels are basically an appearance only mod, so many people (import and domestic) use a smaller diameter wheel for racing.
 
It makes perfect sense what you're saying.

My only argument is mainly that it wasn't done completely with performance in mind, as much as it seems financially-motivated. My assumption is that racing is the last on his mind since he's "poor".

I see the pro's of a lighter wheel, make some money back, and save on the reoccuring cost of maintenance with the tires. But to me, it's still ass backwards because it just takes away from the value of what the car was originally built or designed as. Especially with the MS3 being a limited availability/limited production vehicle. It's sort of a big deal imo.

My analogy for this thinking is sorta like, if you'd buy a Corvette but had a long commute and drove year round. So instead, swap to smaller diameter wheels, and all-season tires. Why even buy the car then if wheels and tires were going to dent the wallet?

Original Poster, no offense whatsoever. I'm just at a loss at the logic (UNLESS, you're auto-xing, drag racing, or otherwise using those 17's for a specific racing need, which you have stated is not part of the intentions). In a way, it's sorta like when people empty their bank accounts online with mods, then 6 months later they'll try to recoup their losses by taking another loss on a used performance product. $750 is sorta low too, when most are selling for $1000+.
 
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Does this really come as a surprise to you in this crappy economy with foreclosures and bankruptcies that people don't factor in related costs into their budget aside from purchase price? I lost track of how many early Evo owners sold their cars within a year or two because they didn't realize how expensive the maintenance costs were. Well no s***, it's an econobox with upgraded everything, of course it's going to be expensive.

Whether it's cars, houses, clothes, whatever, people live beyond their means.

But in the case of the OP, maybe he loves everything about his car except the fact that the wheels are 18". I know if I had my way, I would've opted for 17" or even 16" stockers if the choice was there.
 
A nice lightweight option would have been nice in 17's or 16's. I think I would have opted for them too as it's much easier to find performance tires in those sizes and for MUCH cheaper than compared 18" sizes. I know my snow tires are going to be 16's and are going to cost about 1/4-1/3 what 18" snows would run me. Found some 16's on clearance for $66 each on tire rack...
 
Yeah, he said he was selling them because he was thinking ahead to when he has to replace the tires....18" tires being more expensive with less options. He's not living beyond his means per ce, just wanting to be able save some cash in the future and he happened to come across a great deal in the process....wheels and tires for $200, I'd take it.
 
It makes perfect sense what you're saying.

My only argument is mainly that it wasn't done completely with performance in mind, as much as it seems financially-motivated. My assumption is that racing is the last on his mind since he's "poor".

I see the pro's of a lighter wheel, make some money back, and save on the reoccuring cost of maintenance with the tires. But to me, it's still ass backwards because it just takes away from the value of what the car was originally built or designed as. Especially with the MS3 being a limited availability/limited production vehicle. It's sort of a big deal imo.

My analogy for this thinking is sorta like, if you'd buy a Corvette but had a long commute and drove year round. So instead, swap to smaller diameter wheels, and all-season tires. Why even buy the car then if wheels and tires were going to dent the wallet?

Original Poster, no offense whatsoever. I'm just at a loss at the logic (UNLESS, you're auto-xing, drag racing, or otherwise using those 17's for a specific racing need, which you have stated is not part of the intentions). In a way, it's sorta like when people empty their bank accounts online with mods, then 6 months later they'll try to recoup their losses by taking another loss on a used performance product. $750 is sorta low too, when most are selling for $1000+.

$1000+! Damn. Still, I'm happy with the trade, I used the extra money to buy my wife a nice dress and build an HTPC. Both of which gives me much more pleasure than the 18" wheels.

My old car was a motor/tranny swapped STI. I had 18" Volks and Falken Azenis 615s. It made a little bit of sense because I went to the track occasionally, but it was still a huge waste of money. This car will never see the track, and it sees a twisty road 1% of the time. I could keep the 18" wheels and put some sticky rubber on them, but then I'd just be wasting them on open highway at 70 mph.

So why did I get the MS3? Because I like to fly around entrance ramps and then floor it. This isn't using the MS3 to it's full potential, I know, but I bought the car for the following reasons in descending order:

1 - price
2 - warranty, practicality, reliability
3 - straight line speed
4 - interior quality
5 - competence in the corners

This isn't meant as a dig, but I don't think the MS3 is an awesome car. It's the best in it's class by a fair margin IMO, but it's no Corvette, M3, GT-R, etc. The MS3, like my old STI but more so, is a hopped up econobox. It's got an extra 100 hp, some upgraded suspension bits, and an LSD. It's not meant to be a giant killer, it's a daily driver that is faster than the rest. For me, it doesn't "deserve" big wheels and sticky rubber like an M3 does.

I guess at this point in my life my car is more utilitarian than a source of enjoyment. I can definitely relate to those that dump money into their MS3s though, because I spent 5 figures on my STI and enjoyed every minute of it.
 
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