suspension( stock, tokico)

[Wagonbacker9]

I think the bottom line is that you can't accomplish what you want to accomplish the way you want to do it...

 

[leorules27]

16's are stock on a P5.
17's are stock on an MSP.

Lifting the car on 18's... you could still have some rubbing, but the car will look retarded like that anyway. But there are lots of factors going into the rubbing with 18's. Specifically... offset of the wheels. Several people on here have run 18's on a P5 successfully. One that comes to mind is altspace. He had 18's on his P5 when he had it and they looked awesome.

so after i get 17 or 16 and new tires. wat shud i do abt the suspension.
tokico blue with my progress springs or stock struts with progress springs(current situation but mine are with low profile tires) or sumthn else u wud suggest.
As u said before tokico illumina with s-tech.. ahh.. thts a little to expensive. I already have lowering springs thou.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

if your shocks are blown, get the blues or illuminas. but yes, I'd got with a 16 or 17 if I were you, and keep the springs you have.

 

[leorules27]

I think the bottom line is that you can't accomplish what you want to accomplish the way you want to do it...

i didnt have a way, i just read some forums and googled s*** and came up with an idea and wanted the forum to help me with my decision. If new rims are the decision, i ready to buy them, i just want my car to be smooth. My college is startin and my part-time job so i need a reliable car.

Hey is my 18" a big reason for my crappy mileage.

 

[leorules27]

even if you raise the car, you don't want to put thicker tires on a rim that big. it'll rub when you turn, throw your speedo off, and ruin your fuel economy.



thats MSP stock so its always a good bet, and honestly, I prefer the 225/50/R16 option, but my setup preferencess are geared more toward handling than anything.

new generation... LOL. damn kids.

225/50/16 wat does tht mean except the 16 at the end means 16 inches

 

[Wagonbacker9]

225 is the tread width in mm, 50 is the percentage of the width that is the sidewall height, and yes, 16 is the wheel diameter in inches.

 

[leorules27]

even if you raise the car, you don't want to put thicker tires on a rim that big. it'll rub when you turn, throw your speedo off, and ruin your fuel economy.



thats MSP stock so its always a good bet, and honestly, I prefer the 225/50/R16 option, but my setup preferencess are geared more toward handling than anything.

new generation... LOL. damn kids.

wat abt spacers, wat are those, i read it on another thread. would tht help

 

[Ride92]

If I were here is what I would do. Sell the 18" rims you have and get some 17" rims, This will alow you to run a tire that has a slightly taller side wall so help give you a smoother ride while still looking sweet. You have to think of tires and wheels like this, Take a quarter and lay it on the table, that represents the diameter of the tire allowed on a given car, now lay a dime on top of that, that's the 16" wheel on the P5, if you replace the dime with a penny that's like going with 17" and if you replace the penny with a nickel that's like going with 18's, remember the whole time the diameter of the quarter never changes. If you just put larger tires on 18's your speedometer is going to be off and not give acuarate speed and there will be rubbing when you turn even on stock suspension. So Get some 17" wheels with 215/45/R17 tires. Then get some better suspension. There's not a lot of info in the progress springs but from what I know they are an appereance spring made for looks and not ride quality or handling at all. Your stock struts/shocks may be blown, I'd get some new Tokico HP "Blues" struts, about $100 peice and then some Eibach Pro-Kit springs. The springs are progressive meaning that they are comfortable for daily driving and not super stiff for a good ride but the spring rate increases as you load the spring when cornering to give you good handeling.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

wat abt spacers, wat are those, i read it on another thread. would tht help

if your offset is too high yes. but i highly doubt you have that problem.

 

[leorules27]

If I were here is what I would do. Sell the 18" rims you have and get some 17" rims, This will alow you to run a tire that has a slightly taller side wall so help give you a smoother ride while still looking sweet. You have to think of tires and wheels like this, Take a quarter and lay it on the table, that represents the diameter of the tire allowed on a given car, now lay a dime on top of that, that's the 16" wheel on the P5, if you replace the dime with a penny that's like going with 17" and if you replace the penny with a nickel that's like going with 18's, remember the whole time the diameter of the quarter never changes. If you just put larger tires on 18's your speedometer is going to be off and not give acuarate speed and there will be rubbing when you turn even on stock suspension. So Get some 17" wheels with 215/45/R17 tires. Then get some better suspension. There's not a lot of info in the progress springs but from what I know they are an appereance spring made for looks and not ride quality or handling at all. Your stock struts/shocks may be blown, I'd get some new Tokico HP "Blues" struts, about $100 peice and then some Eibach Pro-Kit springs. The springs are progressive meaning that they are comfortable for daily driving and not super stiff for a good ride but the spring rate increases as you load the spring when cornering to give you good handeling.

wat abt the weight of the rims, is tht somethng i shud think abt when buying new 17's

 

[leorules27]

if your offset is too high yes. but i highly doubt you have that problem.

i have no idea wat offset means?

 

[Wagonbacker9]

spacer reduce offset by spacing the wheel out away from the hub face.

read this please:

http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Wheel_Fitment_Guide.cfm

 

[Ride92]

wat abt the weight of the rims, is tht somethng i shud think abt when buying new 17's

Well, weight can play a factor in choosing rims. Since it's a rotational weighted item the heavy the rim the harder the engine has to work to get them to turn. Most guys that "track" their car will use a lightweight 16" rim. The FD rims from a Mazda RX-7 is a very popular choice for this they weigh in at about 13 or 15 libs depending on weather you get the reinforced ones or not. Most rims will be about 20 to 25 lbs. The thing is as the weight linearly decrease the price exponetionally increase.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

its not so much the rotational mass that is the problem, its the unsprung mass.

translated: I couldn't care much less about getting the tires to spin faster, the part that matters to me is that they respond to road bumps MUCH better.

 

[kelvis.joel]

1.) struts: stock or tokico? u help me, tht the reason i posted the forum.
2.) how do i see if my wheels are heavy? wats the regular weight.
3.) they are low i just check it says 215/35/18 84Y
4.) stiff sidewalls. i have no idea wat tht means.

thnks for showing some concern. plz help me out through this. people see my car and be like damn! and when they sit in it, bro sell this car, any car rides better than this.

I had the same problem.Now I use stock struts with a 1 inch drop springs and 215 40 18 tires on a p5 and no problem at all.

 

[THE Phen]

stock struts don't hold up to being lowered for very long. Trust me.

 

[leorules27]

I had the same problem.Now I use stock struts with a 1 inch drop springs and 215 40 18 tires on a p5 and no problem at all.

how long has it been since u did this. Coz everyone says stock struts can handle the drop. we'll there not supposed to.

 

[leorules27]

so guys ive made my decision with the suspension. Tokico blu struts($325 of ebay) and eibach(forum told me its better for daily driving and i think i can trust them) pro kit($220 of ebay).
But before making this purchase i saw coilovers for P5 and i have no idea which is better. What are the main positive,negative about coilovers. Which one is better coz i saw this deal on ebay. ill post a link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEX-...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

So what do u think guys, what shud i go for.(im not racing with my car,just daily driving, college to job and job to home).

 

[leorules27]

stock struts don't hold up to being lowered for very long. Trust me.

yup, i know wat u mean, there not meant to handle them. But help me with the coilovers decision.

 

[THE Phen]

Go with the Pro-Kit. If you thought the ride was rough before, coilovers will knock your teeth out. Those spring rates aren't ridiculous, but much worse than what you had.