mazdaspeedster3
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- Mazdaspeed3. 2008
They have a super charged Vibe...
They have a super charged Vibe...
The old vibes had the same archetecture as the Toyota Martix. Idk about model codes... but the Matrix XRS had a potent I4 with a "lift" feature similar to Honda's Vtec. The damn thing redlines at like 8,500 RPM. So if it was an I/H/E and tuned Vibe (with the XRS engine)... then he would give a stock MS3 a good run for it's money...
Just looked it up... the Vibe GT did come with this engine. So there you have it.
There are two toyo 1.8's in that vintage: the 1zz and the 2zz. identical disp, different b&s, the 2zz makes 180 at a million rpm and is found originally on the celica GT then the 06 rolla xlr and for some wierd reason they used it in the Vibe. Dunno if pontiac forced em to mate a different tranny, but as far as I know it only came with a 6 MT
did you have a ton of wheel spin from 10mph and he did not?
Like I said, sure the vibes are quick, but it's more likely the MS3 was slow...
(hahaspit)
No the Pontiac Vibe is not a quick car at all. The MS3 is capable of running a 13.9-13.8 off the show room floor, while the Vibe would have problems breaking out of the mid 15's.
The most likely reason for the close race is, and sorry to say, the driver or the driver not giving a good description of said Vibe.
Stock for stock, it's Apples to Oranges.
Mine was no slower than the rest of them. (stock) If you are implying I can't hold a straight line, press a pedal to the floor and shift once quickly... You are mistaken.
Not implying anything.
What gives with the username anyway? Is it beige too? (wink)
I used to have a 98 TRD supercharged Camry. It was my first brand new car. At the time, you couldn't get an Accord v6 with a manual transmission. So...I went with the Camry CE V6 model (5 spd) and later had TRD S/C it. I have been using that "name" ever since. Oh...and it was beige... I think it was called something different too... I just can't remember what it was.
First of all, you could not get a Vibe GT w/AWD. They never came and couldn't be ordered that way. You couldn't get it with the auto tranny either. 6-speed manual only.the rents have a 2009 Vibe with the 1.8L, FWD, 4-speed auto, it is balls slow lol. Could the car in question be a Vibe GT w/AWD and the 2.4l w/ 4speed auto? That's the only way I see it being "quick" because that is the most high powered (factory) setup.
As you said, the 2ZZ is the same engine, different head and adds lift to the valve timing to get an 8500 rpm redline. Most of the extra power is up there.There are two toyo 1.8's in that vintage: the 1zz and the 2zz. identical disp, different b&s, the 2zz makes 180 at a million rpm and is found originally on the celica GT then the 06 rolla xlr and for some weird reason they used it in the Vibe. Dunno if pontiac forced em to mate a different tranny, but as far as I know it only came with a 6 MT
Sorry... You are incorrect... It was NOT the driver... Again...let me state... I am not some 18 year who just got his first car. Also, I have driven a lot of other (and some more powerful) cars than my MS3.
This was a 2009/2010 2.4 liter Vibe GT. That is all I know... I have no idea if any mods were done to the engine, but I am assuming there were. Simply because the of the bottom line fact... He kept up pretty closely with my MS3 in the simplest of situations. This was not a race... this was not an autocross... this was not the quarter mile. We both started about 10-15 MPH...I had just shifted to 2nd... He started a fraction before I did. (I think he planned to cut me off at a upcoming ramp)
I made it to 3rd and as we reached the speed limit and I backed off... He was still in my blind spot and fading...
It was just way closer in terms of acceleration, than I expected.
I used to have a 98 TRD supercharged Camry. It was my first brand new car. At the time, you couldn't get an Accord v6 with a manual transmission. So...I went with the Camry CE V6 model (5 spd) and later had TRD S/C it. I have been using that "name" ever since. Oh...and it was beige... I think it was called something different too... I just can't remember what it was.
+1First of all, you could not get a Vibe GT w/AWD. They never came and couldn't be ordered that way. You couldn't get it with the auto tranny either. 6-speed manual only.
Transversely, you couldn't get (or order) an AWD model w/manual tranny... and the 1ZZ in that model had fewer horses (116 vs. 130) than the 2WD model too. (?)
As you said, the 2ZZ is the same engine, different head and adds lift to the valve timing to get an 8500 rpm redline. Most of the extra power is up there.
I will say that the N/A 1ZZ in my wife's '06 Vibe, while not blindingly fast, is a free revving little sucker. It's much freer revving than the N/A 2.3L in my Mazda3. I like it a lot, especially since we have the 5-sp model!! Fun car to drive, even if it isn't a street racer. And 30-35 mpg back and forth to work is hard to beat.
Oh and BTW, it's easier to work on and mod too.