Suing the gun makers......again!

[kc5zom]

That is a burglary not a robbery. A robbery is where the victim is present and is theatened with force or violence or force or violence is actually used.

A burglary is hwere no one is home.

I don't see the sense in making more gun control laws in the case you state. A gun safe is more likely to keep the gun out of a burglars hand than more laws...

And it is a whole new crime if a burglar has a weapon, such as a gun, when he leaves a premises. At least it is in Colorado

No a burglary involves invasion of the home. If nobody was home then nobody would die dumbass.

 

[70]

I agree, you are riding the short bus. It is all really simple. If a firearm is used in a crime and then destroyed it does not exist anymore. If the guy who pulled a handgun robbing a convenience store spends 5 extra years in jail because he did it, then (guess what) he is not out there committing more crimes.

The pro-gun lobby is just a bunch of whiny bitches. Don't place restrictions on me because I am a law abiding person. Hey buddy, welcome to the ******* real world (and they all say they are law abiding). There are a lot of non-law abiding people. IF you punish them it is a disincentive for them not to commit that crime. If you were really a law abiding citizen then you would not mind registering your weapons because you would have nothing to hide. But you are stuck in your fantasy I want to rebel against the government world and think that guns, because of the 2nd amendment to make sure that this nation had resources to defend itself (ie a militia) when the regular army was weak, have this special little place and they should be subject to absolutely no regulation whatsoever. As to whether the laws in place prevent crime or not, nobody knows. Neither side has any ******* idea if they work in the United States, and if they tell you that they do they are full of s***. The gun laws we have right now are so watered down and useless that I doubt they have any effect at all.

Actually, the gun control nuts are b****y people...."Protect me from everything that might hurt me becuase i can't take care of myself..."

Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Simply requiring more inane gun laws is rediculous. Criminals don't follow the laws as it is.

Less guns overall does not equal less murder or violent crime. It will simply displace it.

 

[kc5zom]

yeah, I second the "no flippin' way" on these measures. This just makes it harder for law abiding citizens to get guns. Stats already show a large portion of gun crimes are done with stolen guns.........these restrictions only restrict the people that aren't the problem.

Stats = I made that up off of the NRA's website right? Just like the majority of fatalities are caused by the highly lethal .22 caliber bullet?

Oh, btw gloves = off. I'm sick of reading bulls*** on here.

 

[70]

No a burglary involves invasion of the home. If nobody was home then nobody would die dumbass.

That is exactly what I said...read it again clown.

You said this, "Besides the fact most robberies occur during the day and on houses that are unoccupied, most criminals aren't idiots. "

To which I replied that you meant to say "burglary" in place of "robbery."

Figure out what you are typing before you call me a dumbass...

 

[kc5zom]

That is exactly what said...read it again clown.

So all of those people that the FBI says died during a "burglary" they really didn't die because they weren't home. Burglary becomes burglary once the home is entered. Robbery is theft on the street (ie mugging). "clown"

 

[shinzen]

Boy kc- lets really be like nazi germany- after we have had everybody do as you suggest, then we can take everyones guns away! What a safe place to live!
(dripping sarcasm for the slower souls out there)

 

[70]

So all of those people that the FBI says died during a "burglary" they really didn't die because they weren't home. Burglary becomes burglary once the home is entered. Robbery is theft on the street (ie mugging). "clown"

Look up the law before you argue the point...

 

[70]

That is exactly what I said...read it again clown.

You said this, "Besides the fact most robberies occur during the day and on houses that are unoccupied, most criminals aren't idiots. "

To which I replied that you meant to say "burglary" in place of "robbery."

Figure out what you are typing before you call me a dumbass...

 

[kc5zom]

A burglary is hwere no one is home.

My point stands, I accidentally used robbery instead of burglary. Sue me. You decided that a burglary is where nobody was home. FBI seems to disagree with you.

 

[kc5zom]

Boy kc- lets really be like nazi germany- after we have had everybody do as you suggest, then we can take everyones guns away! What a safe place to live!
(dripping sarcasm for the slower souls out there)

After the patriot act (lowercase on purpose) I thought that was where I was living.

 

[loccusst]

One of this years Darwin Awards dealt with a shotgun. A man decided he was tired of the cops not doing anything about his shed getting broken into all the time. To solve this he decided to do the looney tunes techniuqe, tie a string to the trigger and the door of the shed. He was so proud of his project he called his nieghbor over to show him. He opened the door to show the neighbor how it worked and killed himself. The thought that this guy was able to own a gun shows that the legal system is not working properly, we have a long way to go still. So I guess for now nature will continue to weed out the idiots.

 

[70]

My point stands, I accidentally used robbery instead of burglary. Sue me. You decided that a burglary is where nobody was home. FBI seems to disagree with you.

So sue me for leaving out, "in the majority of burglaries" the victim is not home...

 

[kc5zom]

I bet the 601 men who murdered their wives last year thought they were "law abiding" as well.

 

[70]

After the patriot act (lowercase on purpose) I thought that was where I was living.

How has your life been so drastically changed because of the Patriot Act?

Because as you put it, "If you are a law abiding citizen, you should have nothing to hide or worry about."

 

[kc5zom]

How has your life been so drastically changed because of the Patriot Act?

Because as you put it, "If you are a law abiding citizen, you should have nothing to hide or worry about."

The constant shadow of silent men in black watching over me without the due process necessary to get a normal warrant. The fact my personal records will be exposed to any government agent without them even having to get a warrant under the guise of "preventing" terrorism. Think I'll go check out Mein Kampf and see if I can get on a list.

Wiretapping my conversations and the government knowing many guns I have fall in different ballparks on the privacy issue.

 

[70]

The constant shadow of silent men in black watching over me without the due process necessary to get a normal warrant. The fact my personal records will be exposed to any government agent without them even having to get a warrant under the guise of "preventing" terrorism. Think I'll go check out Mein Kampf and see if I can get on a list.

Um, any law enforcement agency has been able to look at your criminal record since the dawn of time with out a warrant.

And, you never needed a warrant to watch someone wandering around in public.

But, like you say, if you are a law abiding citizen, you should have nothing to hide. Just like registering guns...

 

[70]

I thought you were for the government knowing how many guns you had...

 

[kc5zom]

Um, any law enforcement agency has been able to look at your criminal record since the dawn of time with out a warrant.

And, you never needed a warrant to watch someone wandering around in public.

But, like you say, if you are a law abiding citizen, you should have nothing to hide. Just like registering guns...

Btw... they can pull your phone records, library records, wiretap your phones or Internet connection, or a large number of other things just by saying it is to preven terrorism.

Do you register your car? Does the government make your fill out some paperwork to title it. Do they not let you drive if you have been proven yourself unworthy of the privilege? How should owning a gun be any different?

 

[JDuncan]

I agree, you are riding the short bus. It is all really simple. If a firearm is used in a crime and then destroyed it does not exist anymore. If the guy who pulled a handgun robbing a convenience store spends 5 extra years in jail because he did it, then (guess what) he is not out there committing more crimes.

The pro-gun lobby is just a bunch of whiny bitches. Don't place restrictions on me because I am a law abiding person. Hey buddy, welcome to the ******* real world (and they all say they are law abiding). There are a lot of non-law abiding people. IF you punish them it is a disincentive for them not to commit that crime. If you were really a law abiding citizen then you would not mind registering your weapons because you would have nothing to hide. But you are stuck in your fantasy I want to rebel against the government world and think that guns, because of the 2nd amendment to make sure that this nation had resources to defend itself (ie a militia) when the regular army was weak, have this special little place and they should be subject to absolutely no regulation whatsoever. As to whether the laws in place prevent crime or not, nobody knows. Neither side has any ******* idea if they work in the United States, and if they tell you that they do they are full of s***. The gun laws we have right now are so watered down and useless that I doubt they have any effect at all.

You seem to have some misguided fantasy that all guns are made in the US and that US laws will change the number of guns available to criminals. I personally do live in the real world unlike yourself. I know how many cheap weapons are being made in countries overseas and how guns aren't any harder to smuggle than drugs. Criminals are your problem and if you destroyed every single gun that law abiding citizens had or could get, it still wouldn't change a single damn thing. You want more laws, but nothing that would have any effect. You yourself proclaim our laws as watered down but you don't propose a single damn thing that would make a difference.

Here is one I would sign off on. You kill someone, you die. You terminate someones life, by means of gun, knife, drunk driving, bare hands, whatever, then you too share the fate. If you want to see gun CRIME go away, then make penalties for CRIMINALS. Otherwise, quit wasting my time.

I guarantee I have MORE insight to this than you do, and that my short bus is filled with a lot better people than the one you rode. So stop with YOUR BS, thanks.

 

[kc5zom]

I thought you were for the government knowing how many guns you had...

That was the whole "different ballparks" statement. Actually, since the constitutional amendment is to have a well trained militia available then the government has a clear interest in knowing how many guns and who owns them. They could use those individuals and guns in a time of war to save our country from disaster. So really you are being unpatriotic by refusing to let the government know where its militia is and how well equipped it is.