Street race, and you risk the demolition of your vehicle

[FC3s Boy]

out here we used to have huge runs (500+ cars) And I ran 2-3 days a week out there (10-15 runs a night)it just got to scary with all the kids in their moms car trying to be a bad ass, san diego got a little better with the racelegal and drag net programs but it has been going on since the beg. of the car an i'm sure it will be around for a while. F and F really did'nt do much to help either

 

[khrys323]

a guy in fairfax, va died in a msp street racing..

how did it happen?

here in lexington, ky. i never see any street racing. maybe a quick drag race from stop light but it ends quickly. we dont have a mass amount of people who have fixed up imports. mostly domestics, lowriders, or the old rust bucket on 24"s.

i would like get into legal street racing, or circuit tracks. but i dont really know of any near kentucky. just a bunch of drag strips.

 

[noclue119]

how did it happen?

read up

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81799

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81532

 

[chuyler1]

2. Give the racers a wide road where it is 1/4 mile long and easily accessible. They can race there all they want without killing innocent lives. Just make sure its near the cop station to lessen the crime.

What you are asking for here is a race track...which is why they exist: To keep racing under control and as safe as possible. It is what a 1/4 strip of road has evolved into. If there is no track close to you then you should get all your racer buddies together and petition for one and seek out sponsers. If there is a track close to you and its too expensive you should again get your buddies together and petition for an amature night or something.

I just don't see how street racing is safe. You may think you have control at twice the speed limit but you don't, every professional driver knows this. In a single instant, the control you thought you had can be taken away. It can even happen when you are driving the speed limit. It happens at the track all the time also so what makes you confident it doesn't happen on the street and its not going to happen to you? The difference is that at a track, people are at a safe distance, professionals make sure the track is as safe as possible and the drivers follow safety precautions, and there are fire trucks and ambulances at the ready should something go wrong.

 

[khrys323]

not to be an ass, but i was just watching this thing on nbc. and most kids who are just getting their license cannot predict situations, due to inexperience. another reason is that they do not pay attention their surroundings. like the accident with the escalade. thirdly, not only kids but many people who dont put themselfs in a piticular situation, do not know how to control their car. if a person who knows how to drift and a person who doesnt were to fish tail on the road, who do you think would know how to correct the situation the easiest?

 

[khrys323]

thats why everyone should have to take a class on vehicle control too.

 

[noclue119]

i meant an easy to asscess free drag strip/closed street for people to race on... then at least you are not endangering others.

 

[sam1]

Honestly any combination of these solutions should help the current problem

1. Let the stupid ones die. who gives a **** darwinism at work + population control. Ever since we implemented all these laws, our population has been going way up population has multiplied by 1000 times since 1800

2. Give the racers a wide road where it is 1/4 mile long and easily accessible. They can race there all they want without killing innocent lives. Just make sure its near the cop station to lessen the crime

3. The more illegal you making something the more people wants to do it. So stop giving a ****.

1. thats rediculous. its not only the stupid or the guilty ones that die. what happens when they are racing down the road and smash into a family station wagon and kill a whole family? would you want to live with that??? didnt think so.

2. ITS CALLED A TRACK!!!

3. stop giving a ****??? you definately have an interesting way of looking at things...no other comment...

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

well, another interesting aspect I have thought up with this law...whats to saw the cops don't abuse this power...say they see a souped up car rolling at 10-20 over the speed limit, and their is another souped up car in close proximiaty going approximately the smae speed...just speeding, not racing...whats to say thier cars don't get taken away...say soome **** in a souped up hinda pulls up next to a guy in a stang, and starts revving on him(at a light), and the stang revs back to make the point of my engine = 2 of yours? but only the honda takes off in race mode, the cops yank them both, they both lose cars...overall, this law is a little absurd..and it should be a step program ie #1=lose liscence for long time, and pay to have have any future cars your name is insured on have chip installed to either modulat speed, or report and aggressive driving, then #2 take car...don't just take their car right away man. Be somewhat reasonable, everyone makes mistakes man, and I agree that all young people(such as myself) should be required to do driver training(atleast), it has tought me a very large amount on being aware of surroundings, and being able to control vehicle, and how to drive smart and such..and I've noticed I use this information...and even though I always thought I'd be an amazing driver cause I played video games, I realized, the second I got behind the wheel "wow, this is alot different..if I crash here, there is no reset man" and I drive fairly cautiously...will I race somebody from a red...hell yes, but I never go over speed limit by an insane amount(ie, 20kmh max), will I slow down on a highway to below the speed limit, and take it up to 160kmh, ******* right..but while I'm doing that, I have moms in their minivans going 180kmh past me, so umm, maybe becuase I'm racing I'm classified as dangerous, but I'm pretty sure my MSP can handle some hard acceleration and 160kmh better than an old sh*tbox mini van can handle the smame..and don't say, oh but your racing, and driving recklessly, cause matter of fact, I only race if road is clear ahead of me, some people in their vans, and pickups, and SUV's will dart in and out of traffic, going double what I'm doing...yes, some street racers are dangerous drivers...but they are looked at much more harshly due to the fact that they are labeled a street racer, while if the same guy was driving a van or SUV, he'd just get a speeding ticket...so I really think this law needs to be re-evaluated...or atleast not make it immediately car gone.....a little extreme

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

also, people always refer to FF as the street racing movie...and thats why street racers are targeted..well, maybe someone should make a movie of DD-Drunk Driving, or Drugged and Deliberate...shed some light on other dangerous drivers...I'm sure MADD would love to see a movie like that that shows drunk, and intoxicated driving is more than twice as deadly...not as many drunk drivers die though, becuase the alcohol in their system keeps them alive...but I suppose a drunk driver whiping a family of the earth is ok, and him living, rather than two street racing punks killing each other, and maybe a street post....i dunno, i'm sure some of you understand what I'm getting at...street racing is wrong, very wrong, dangersous, yes, but drunk driving, and talking on cell phone eating while doing hair and reading is much more dangerous..also, make young drivers, or drivers ed MANDATORY FOR ALL who get a liscence...include segments on street racing, drunk driving, distractions ETC....prolly do a world of good

 

[Badger Biker]

Until they increase the DWI/DUI laws, (you know, something that kills on a daily basis) stuff like this is absurd. Situations as mazdaspeedpower pointed out above bring in questions about enforcement issues as well.

 

[A.V.MSP]

I would definately have to agree with everyone on the DUI laws. They are so weak they need to be way more strict. Street racing here in Lancaster has gone crazy lately since Sylmar and Glenoaks are on lock down, ya I street race but I also go to the track. Not sure what needs to be done but I dont think crushing cars is the answer. Went to the street races 2 weeks ago, there was probably a good 100-150 cars at least and 1 CHP showed up and everyone went nuts and I almost witnessed a good 5 accidents with people driving on the wrong side of the road and almost hitting signs and other cars. 100-150 cars trying to get away on a two lane road isnt good. I do like the fact that cops are cracking down on street racing but it will just evolve into something else, like canyon racing is getting bigger, I see people drifting in parking lots at the local Wal-Mart, get those guys in the parking lot thats endangering more lives than street racing. Im on both sides of this one dont know if there will ever be a right answer

 

[Prodigy]

i heard about this out here. the cops out here have been pulling people over for any little thing. if they see an exhaust, they pull you over and then look under your hood just to see if your legal or not. i think the new law goes both ways, its good because maybe people will learn and not want to risk losing their car, but at the same time it'll make people want to run from the cops.

on a side note, if they crush your car and your not done paying payments, what happens, will the insurance cover this or do you still have to pay off the car?

Ahh.. does that mean less rice, more sleeper?
(What's "illegal" under the hood in Cali?)
Better yet. What if it wasn't even your car that you were racing with?

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

Ahh.. does that mean less rice, more sleeper?
(What's "illegal" under the hood in Cali?)
Better yet. What if it wasn't even your car that you were racing with?

EXACTLY, it's plain out ******* absurd...I say if anything, becuase nailing street racers is good, killing cars bad, take their liscence for a long long time, make them spend time in jail, make them pay GIANT fines...but dont kill the poor cars..god-damnit

 

[Prodigy]

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Honestly any combination of these solutions should help the current problem

1. Let the stupid ones die. who gives a **** darwinism at work + population control. Ever since we implemented all these laws, our population has been going way up population has multiplied by 1000 times since 1800

2. Give the racers a wide road where it is 1/4 mile long and easily accessible. They can race there all they want without killing innocent lives. Just make sure its near the cop station to lessen the crime

3. The more illegal you making something the more people wants to do it. So stop giving a ****. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
1. thats rediculous. its not only the stupid or the guilty ones that die. what happens when they are racing down the road and smash into a family station wagon and kill a whole family? would you want to live with that??? didnt think so.

2. ITS CALLED A TRACK!!!

3. stop giving a ****??? you definately have an interesting way of looking at things...no other comment...

1. It would be solved by closing off the area.
2. All tracks aren't easily accessable for everyone.
3. Compare it to drugs that are not illegal in other countries, more people do the drug here in the US when it's illegal than in other countries when it's not illegal. Making something against the law simply provokes more people to do so.

I'm not saying street racing is good and all but if the police were seriously trying to save lives, they'ed help schedule a time and a place and close the road and keep people out of harms way.

My personal opinion: I'm only 16(as of September) and I'd rather autocross once a month than risk losing everything. I'm one of the few teenagers that actually gives a damn about my personal possesions. As for the police, they should only use the threat of taking away the peoples car as a threat. Nothing more. Nothing less.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE STREET RACING. ALWAYS.

The only way to help the idiots who still do it is by making conditions safer. That is to either open a dragstrip in EVERY town or to close off areas. The only difference between a dragstrip and the street is the [size=-1]conveniency [/size] to get there, there's medic standing by, and that bystanders are safe. A closed off street with a medic can be the first step to taking the street racers off the street.

 

[misbehave]

EXACTLY, it's plain out ******* absurd...I say if anything, becuase nailing street racers is good, killing cars bad, take their liscence for a long long time, make them spend time in jail, make them pay GIANT fines...but dont kill the poor cars..god-damnit

Yep!
Didn't they say s*** like "People kills people, guns don't kill people?", and should punish the killers instead of the guns? Where is that going now?
They should punish the person behind the wheels, not the cars.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

i used to race here back in highschool..its exactly a 1/4 mile to those train tracks....

 

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

not even going to try and justify my street racing, been there done that...



if people werent plain out STUPID about the s***, it wouldnt be near as much of a problem.

 

[mp5jeff]

street racing has been going on since a ****** model t came out, ever since the gay and curious came out, the govt. now starts to crack down? haha what a coincidence.

 

[protegerhm]

a wonder

I can see people making a fuss about racing in the city around a shopping center or around were people cruize, but i dont see anything wrong with people who take it out of town or on a street were there isnt any traffic.i believe there taking this way too seriously and not in moderation on how its going to affect people and how there going to respond to something like this.It is really kinda stupid i think and they need to pay attention to other things than street racing.I street race almost every week end and never heard of anyone getting killed but accidents do happen.I think thats what people need to think about when they go out to race. (nuts)