Stock Tires
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That wear has nothing to do with toe... your camber is off... negative camber (which helps cornering) will make you wear the inside. Positive camber, which is bad, will wear the outside... if your toe is off, you will chew tires very quickly, if it's just toe that is off the whole tire will have excessive wear since you are angled but trying to drive the tire straight... toe is the left/right alignment of the tire when looking down on it... camber deals with how the tires is angled left/right when looking at it from the rear..
Glowmunkey
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Toe could still be the cause... that tire wore fast if the mileage he stated was correct, and it can most certainly wear just one edge... camber causes drastically less extreme wear, unless of couse you've got like -5* of camber.CONEH8R said:
Anyway, should be a warranty issue... technically I'm sure they can deny it, but if the car's got like 7K miles on it, the dealer had damn well better try to placate you. Write to Mazda, or just start shooting up your dealership.
MazdaDryvr
Member
I have always felt from day one that my car pulls to the left, not alot but if you release the wheel it drifts left. I have tried P5 specs and some specs that another MSP driver posted saying he got the numbers right from Mazda NA. I just changed out my Potenzas and the inside on the front was bald much like the pics above. I am going to try and find a shop that can manually adjust the alignment. No more " Well it's at spec" BS for me. Always with the pull to the left.
CONEH8R said:
I thought i had too much positive camber to, but if you look at the pic of my last dealership alignment I had done on May 13, my camber if fine. Even before they did an alignment, it was still within spec. My toe was just way out of wack.
Then if look at the second alignment specs (the onefrom the July 22) the camber is still in spec(Well the caster is a little out of spec on the left front), and the toe is off again only this time on the right front.
(blah) I really don't know much about alignments and stuff, I'm just reading it like i see it.
Glowmunkey said:
I sent of huge 3 page complaint to Mazda on Friday morning. A women emailed me back saying she was sorry and said she was calling Whitten Bros Mazda (In Richmond VA) to get there side of the story.
Fine by me, I've got every single sevice record that my car has ever been in for and i've got the old tires in my back yard.
I paid 666.xx dollars for new tires from Tire Rack.com and I told her that Mazda should be paying for my tires b/c they wore out so fast b/c whitten bros couldn't do a proper alignment on my car. And if they were doing a proper alignment and my car doesn't hold a alignment (like it has been doing)then my MSP is a freaking LEMON! And I will pursue the Lemon law on this matter.
But I will be checking the alignment in 1,000 miles at the local alignment shop(Where i had my last one done on July 22) just to see if it is holding this time.
Hopefully it will though this time.
MazdaDryvr said:
When i went to the local shop down here, i asked to speak to there alignment guy. They let me walk into the shop and talk to the guy and he showed me right there on his Hunter alignment rack the specs for my car.
So, I guess i got lucky in this regard.
I wouldn't accept anyone telling me my car is within "spec" unless i actually see a printout of my alignment specs. I have developed this attitude in the last couple of months b/c of my alignment issues.
MazdaDryvr
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Mazda did one alignment under warranty (not more than two months after I got the car) and then I took it to an independant shop with the MSP specs. I felt less pull after the MSP specs were applied but still some was there. I notice that when you are going down the highway and you release the wheel it immediately tips slightly to the left and then the car drifts left. What I want is to get in that car and have it drive PERFECTLY straight. My 02 P5 never had this issue. So what i need is a shop that will align it to spec and then take it to the highway and test it, then tweak it till it pulls left no more. That was one thing that pissed me off about my dealer. I told them it only is noticable on the highway. THey won't take it on the highway because it's too far away. (the dealership is right downtown. I can't imagine this is a stumper of a problem.
- Saban, was your car straight and true after the HUnter specs were on? If so, maybe you could post those specs here. I would like to take them into my shop for them to apply on my MSP.
- Saban, was your car straight and true after the HUnter specs were on? If so, maybe you could post those specs here. I would like to take them into my shop for them to apply on my MSP.
MazdaDryvr said:
Yes my car is straight and true after the Hunter alignment, but my car has always been straight and true after i got my second alignment back in October 03' from the dealership. Even though my car didnt pull anymore the car still had major toe problems and, as you can see in the pics, it wore down the tires real fast. Actually it started pulling very slightly to the right, but i think its b/c my right front was so much more worn than the other tires.
The specs that I showed the guy at the Hunter alignment shop were the same specs that I found on this forum. Actually when I showed him the specs from this forum, they were almost the same ones on his alignment computer. So I just used the ones that were on the alignment computer.
Maybe you could try a different local alignment shop? or keep calling around until somebody has the MSP specs on there alignment computer.
spiceyorange1
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sounds like you need new tires!!!!!just junked my stock tires, they had 21,000 on them. I exchanged them for the dunlop fm901, and man they are nice. They way out perform the potenza!!!!!!!
MazdaDryvr
Member
I bought B F Goodrich Scorchers. I must admit it was based on price. They're alright I suppose. Not as firm in the sidewall as the Potenzas.
UPDATE!!!
Check out my wear on my tires I got back in July of 2004
Right Front
Right Rear
Left Front
Left Rear
Pictures speak for themselves, but this is after 6,337 miles normal aggresive street driving. No autocrossing, no massive burnouts.
Thought I would share with everybody, Very happy with the tire wear on my car now. (yippy)
Check out my wear on my tires I got back in July of 2004
Right Front
Right Rear
Left Front
Left Rear
Pictures speak for themselves, but this is after 6,337 miles normal aggresive street driving. No autocrossing, no massive burnouts.
Thought I would share with everybody, Very happy with the tire wear on my car now. (yippy)
I may have a similar problem. I got the dealer to do an alignment after I got installed new Proxes 4 and everything was fine. I even got them to check again 6 months later jut to make sure. The car drove very nice. When I put in winter tires I noticed that the car now pulls to the right... But worse, I measured the tread left on my front tires and they are down to 4/10 (out of ten) and I only drove 5000 miles!!! The tires are rated 300! Something has to be wrong somewhere!
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