SRT-4 Crash pics

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The thread also said the the girl went to the Dodge dealer wanting a "Yellow 5 Speed ". That was the only yellow one on the lot, so she bought the SRT-4. I guess she didn't know what she was getting into. I also noticed how many other people have flipped their SRT-4s. The term "ass too high" or "rear end too light" kept coming up.

SRT-4 owners: Please stick to the drag strip. Your car corners like a stock Neon.(shrug)
 
if you people would read more and criticize less you'd see how the girl that posted the pictures went into detail about how she talked to the girls father about the accident. she also explains how the girl would have been carted off to jail if she had been drinking which SHE WASN'T. just because there's a beer can in the car doesn't mean she was drinking from it.
 
Yeah the guy said she wasn't drinking... but then he said this:

"There's actually a LAW in Louisiana that states you CAN drink a beer while driving your car, as long as you are not drunk. That's why we call it DWI (Driving while Intoxicated) and not DUI (Driving under the influence)."

Don't know if its true but if it is, i'm sorry, but you guys live in a crazy country.

Shesh....
 
Natey said:
The thread also said the the girl went to the Dodge dealer wanting a "Yellow 5 Speed ". That was the only yellow one on the lot, so she bought the SRT-4. I guess she didn't know what she was getting into. I also noticed how many other people have flipped their SRT-4s. The term "ass too high" or "rear end too light" kept coming up.

SRT-4 owners: Please stick to the drag strip. Your car corners like a stock Neon.(shrug)
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The engine is simply to strong for the suspension...The car can reach such insane speeds very quickly, and then once you are at those speeds the handling sucks, the brakes suck, and the balance sucks...

IMO it is also these kids parents who buy them for them...I have never personally met an SRT-4 driver (In person I mean, not online or anything) that was over the age of 19...The kids I met simply have no clue on how to handle a car, especially one that can easily reach speeds that are ridiculous...

The SRT-4 is falling into a similar category with dumb ass celebrities and 911 Turbo's...Some fuckhead rapper will plunk down $190,000 on a GT-2 and have no idea what a rear engined car even is or why it is hard to handle...they love the street credit, all the way into the nearest telephone pole...Same with these SRT-4 driver's...They do not understand the physics involved with carrying speed through turns, or even why the SRT-4 is not good for it...

Well at least that SRT-4 in this thread will be easy to fix:rolleyes:
 
Installshield 2 said:
The engine is simply to strong for the suspension...The car can reach such insane speeds very quickly, and then once you are at those speeds the handling sucks, the brakes suck, and the balance sucks...

Natey said:
SRT-4 owners: Please stick to the drag strip. Your car corners like a stock Neon.

You guys obviously are clueless to the facts here.....let me educate you a little bit so you don't get blasted for being so wrong:

1/4 Mile (SCC)
MSP - 15.5 seconds at 89.4 mph
SRT - 14.2 seconds at 99.5 mph

Skidpad(SCC)
MSP - .89g
SRT - .85g

70mph Slalom(SCC)
MSP - 70.3 mph
SRT - 69 mph

Braking 60-0(Edmunds)
MSP - 117.3 feet
SRT - 116 feet

I had to get the braking info from Edmunds to be fair because the braking tests done for SCC on the MSP were done with no ABS and they got 123 feet. So you can clearly see that the handling and braking is EXTREMELY far from "sucking" on the SRT-4 even WITH the skinner rubber and it's ass way up in the air. The SRT-4 has upgraded brakes (bigger than the MSP actually), suspension, LSD, and shoes so it's definitely not ANYTHING like some stock Neon in handling. I have both cars as you can see by my sig and I can tell you that the tiny bit of handling performance that the SRT gives up could be easily made up with the HUGE amount of nice, linear torque off the corners. Don't hate if you don't know.....we've got plenty of trolls over on those boards so we get lots of practice showing them the facts......and LOTS of vids too......like the SRTGURL vid where she runs a 12.6 and whips a Viper and she's only got an exhaust and CAI.

Bottom line.....the SRT is NOT just a straight line car....but don't take my word for it......read what the experts write and look at their data.
 
this is scarey

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loj68 said:
You guys obviously are clueless to the facts here.....let me educate you a little bit so you don't get blasted for being so wrong:

1/4 Mile (SCC)
MSP - 15.5 seconds at 89.4 mph
SRT - 14.2 seconds at 99.5 mph

Skidpad(SCC)
MSP - .89g
SRT - .85g

70mph Slalom(SCC)
MSP - 70.3 mph
SRT - 69 mph

Braking 60-0(Edmunds)
MSP - 117.3 feet
SRT - 116 feet

I had to get the braking info from Edmunds to be fair because the braking tests done for SCC on the MSP were done with no ABS and they got 123 feet. So you can clearly see that the handling and braking is EXTREMELY far from "sucking" on the SRT-4 even WITH the skinner rubber and it's ass way up in the air. The SRT-4 has upgraded brakes (bigger than the MSP actually), suspension, LSD, and shoes so it's definitely not ANYTHING like some stock Neon in handling. I have both cars as you can see by my sig and I can tell you that the tiny bit of handling performance that the SRT gives up could be easily made up with the HUGE amount of nice, linear torque off the corners. Don't hate if you don't know.....we've got plenty of trolls over on those boards so we get lots of practice showing them the facts......and LOTS of vids too......like the SRTGURL vid where she runs a 12.6 and whips a Viper and she's only got an exhaust and CAI.

Bottom line.....the SRT is NOT just a straight line car....but don't take my word for it......read what the experts write and look at their data.

This is ridiculous...You felt criticized by our remarks, becuase you own one, and reply with a biased comeback...plus your comeback has absolutely nothing to do with my original argument...I don't care how fast a SRT-4 can go or what it can beat in a straight line...If it will toast a M3 around the "theRing", I would care...that would be a much better illustration of the cars overall performance...

I don't own either...I was not comparing it in anyway to the MSP...And I don't give a s*** and a half about what magazines say about cars...

First of all I apologize...The sucking aspects of the car was being compared to much more expensive vehicles that are basically in a similar "speed" category...I didn't care about what the MSP's numbers are, that is simply irrelevant...

the SRT-4 is very capable of reaching speeds above 100mph in less distance than most vehicles...that is my point...You can quickly gain that much speed on a highway with one...Once you get there however, the car is much less capable than say an EVO, M3, S4 or other, more expensive vehicle, that can reach those speeds in relatively a similar amount of time...this is why it is a problem for s**** that don't know how to handle at those speeds...60-0 distances don't mean s***, and two similar cars from 60-0 can behave extremely differently at 130-0...Same for handling... a skidpad rating does little to provide evidence of behavior during a 120mph sweeper on a highway...The car has much worse weight balance than pretty much any car that can reach those speeds so quickly...Put simply the chassis is not as capable as the engine...and every "expert" has quoted exactly that in a round about way...

Again this had nothing to do with the handling prowess of the MSP...The MSP can't reach 120mph as quickly, and becuase of that the driver is less inclined to do so...

An EVO, M3, or even standard 911 all are in a relatively same hp/weight ratio as the SRT-4...They all are fairly similar in acceleration...But of the cars mentioned, the SRT-4 is only similar in engine output...It does not brake as well as the others, it does not handle as well as the others, and it is not nearly as safe at above 100mph as the others...that was my argument...
 
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loj68----just curious, was the girl driving the car an "expert"? was she even an enthusiast? was it "purdy"? there are plenty of cars out there that are great performers but in the wrong hands are very dangerous. look at Dany Heatly of the atlanta thrashers and his wrecked Ferrari. And his dead teammate. 21 years old(?), got money, bought fast car (with amazing handling AND brakes), shows off, now he may never recover. just because a car is built to perform a given way, doesn't mean the driver is. so you can take your little stat sheet...........(cheers)
 
Also please don't take my posts the wrong way...I am not now comparing the SRT-4 to the more expensive fast cars...I am only commenting on the safety aspect of the vehicle overall at speeds a lot of new young owners drive them...
 
understood, installshield. i'd have to say that a good driver can make any car (almost) perform, while an "inexperienced" driver can take a performance oriented vehicle and land it shiny side down. then up. then down again......basically, no car can make up for driver deficiency or ignorance.
 
sidpro5 said:
loj68----just curious, was the girl driving the car an "expert"? was she even an enthusiast? was it "purdy"? there are plenty of cars out there that are great performers but in the wrong hands are very dangerous. look at Dany Heatly of the atlanta thrashers and his wrecked Ferrari. And his dead teammate. 21 years old(?), got money, bought fast car (with amazing handling AND brakes), shows off, now he may never recover. just because a car is built to perform a given way, doesn't mean the driver is. so you can take your little stat sheet...........(cheers)

Exactly..that was my point all along...Any fast car in the wrong hands is a problem...and being that the SRT-4 is cheap, it is able to get "in the wrong hands" much easier and much more frequently than an exotic...
 
there is a book that I think everybody should read, its called "Going Faster"
its the book used by the Skip Barber racing school, I must say its a very good book, I have read my copy several times now, it teaches you the proper way to enter corners, skid recovery, brakeing, shifting, and everything else that will help you get better laptimes
better yet some of the ideas work well on the street to help you avoid an accident like this one, one thing the book talks about alot is not making sudden movements with the controlls, (gas, brake, steering) and that to much or or too little can cause you to loose controll
 
I have felt the same as installshield about the SRT-4 all along. Some cars aren't meant to be fast, IMO. Like that one guy who dropped a small block in his pontiac grand prix and flipped it at 220 mph or so due to bad aerodynamics... yow!
 
Just look at the car after it rolled. The pic that newf posted is just disturbing. I'm gonna use dr. sound here as an example. His car rolled down this huge cliff. Flipped multiple times and the inside of the car is untouched. Everything help like it was suppose to. The srt-4 was in no doubt in a bad accident but look how the roof came apart. The driver would most likely be injured or dead if she went down the same cliff sound did.

Also as for the airbag thing, having them deploy in a roll accident isn't as good as you might think. They are only for frontal collisions or frontal offset collisions. In a roll over accident they might injure the cabin occupants more than if they hadn't come out.
 

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