so what's the deal...

[Dexter]

are you a ******* bot or something?

 

[prlinding]

Don't know what a bot is so I won't get offended...lucky for you. But I see that you are an authorized vendor dexter....what do you sell?

Btw in terms of reliability my convertable rx7 went 127k before I had it rebuilt and bridge ported....that to me is pretty good. The 12a to me was even stronger and easier to work on due to the lack of fuel injection...and plenty people argue that point with a 13b from a gsl-se.....I love rotaries...I think they for their size lack of moving parts and output are phenomal engines...who cares about the environment when you are in the car instead of behind it.....

 

[Dexter]

you keep posting the same posts over...i swear that i saw you post the same paragraph like 4 posts ago. unless i am going insane...which i may...

nope...
right now i dont sell much of anything.

 

[Gbourdon]

(confused) I thought my retardism was kicking in.
I came back here saw my post. Looked a couple posts later and saw a post that I had already read once before. I thought maybe settings were changed and newest post was at the top now.... nope, not my retardism.

I hate this thread like I hate Dr. Phil.

 

[Dexter]

lol exactly. i like the boldness also.

 

[Gbourdon]

Def. fembot.

 

[Mikey444]

Don't know what a bot is so I won't get offended...lucky for you. But I see that you are an authorized vendor dexter....what do you sell?

Btw in terms of reliability my convertable rx7 went 127k before I had it rebuilt and bridge ported....that to me is pretty good. The 12a to me was even stronger and easier to work on due to the lack of fuel injection...and plenty people argue that point with a 13b from a gsl-se.....I love rotaries...I think they for their size lack of moving parts and output are phenomal engines...who cares about the environment when you are in the car instead of behind it.....

You're such a ******* tool, get lost, no one wants you here. If you are not happy with Mazda than just keep your ******* mouth shut because no one cares to hear your bull s***.

 

[Micah]

FWIW - I've driven the RX8, I've driven a Twin Turbo RX7 also. Fun cars - yes.

I've driven Lambo's and Ferrari's from the classic dealership on Route 35 in Wall. I know the kid who's father owns Body Motion (porsche tuner) - there's a world of difference between the rotary Mazda's and those cars. Price difference is the most glaring though.

 

[Mazda3]

You're such a ******* tool, get lost, no one wants you here. If you are not happy with Mazda than just keep your ******* mouth shut because no one cares to hear your bull s***.

You go girl!!!

 

[ChiMSP]

I mean look at mazda and its msp dodge whips out a srt4 how does mazda respond??? They yank the car off production....I'm soooo pissed. I have owned two rx7's a rx3 and I had a parked mp5 I gave to my brother because I'm bored with it...I tried the whole handling bit but it just doesn't fly....its like saying its not the size its the motion....BS! You have a little pecker homie...I hate hondas and have had only one mustang 5.0...which I hated....and bought a bike gixxer 750....to qwell my addiction to speed. I was a signature away from buying an sti....and I didn't cuz I just wasn't a sube fan....mazda's forcing my hand....and its gonna kill me to buy a goat...but 400 horse is hard to pass....not to mention rwd.....

21 M Chicago here with pics and web cam. Looking for a hot chick. Cum to my chat room. A/S/L

 

[Dexter]

^^ lmao

 

[SpeedBeaver]

the 6.6s for the 0-100kmph is because of the car's weight... 3600 lbs that slows the car a lot.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

it looks like they're chasing galants, camrys, and accords does anyone care that they are going after guppies.....

guppies. yep, mazda is chasing FISH with thier cars now.

I mean look at everyone else trying to take over the market....mazda is only trying to place......hemi's GTO's stangs all pushing 300 or better horse and weighing tons.....and blowing away everything in sight. And don't give me that handling crap because handling doesn't mean squat light to light.....

a 400 horsepower GTO takes nearly 6 seconds to hit 60 and costs almost $40,000 and is made in Australia. Yeah, Detroit is "doing it" alright. a v8 300C is easily $30,000 and a v8 mustang goes for no cheaper than $25,000 with no options. but $28,000 for a mazdaspeed six with two extra wheels driving the car is too much money?

light to light racing is stupid.

I mean look at mazda and its msp, dodge whips out a srt4... how does mazda respond??? They yank the car off production....I am still soooo pissed about that one.

the msp was taken out of production because the protege as a platform was taken out of production and replaced with the 3. I'm pretty sure mazda didn't say "oh s*** a fast neon, better quit while we're ahead." that's like saying they took the protege5 out of production because the Rio Cinco showed up.

Don't know what a bot is so I won't get offended...lucky for you. But I see that you are an authorized vendor dexter....what do you sell?

Btw in terms of reliability my convertable rx7 went 127k before I had it rebuilt and bridge ported....that to me is pretty good. The 12a to me was even stronger and easier to work on due to the lack of fuel injection...and plenty people argue that point with a 13b from a gsl-se.....I love rotaries...I think they for their size lack of moving parts and output are phenomal engines...who cares about the environment when you are in the car instead of behind it.....

what the **** does it matter what he sells? it doesn't make his posts any less valid? I own a carbureted 12A and personally think its garbage compared to the Turbo II setup I am putting into the car. But thats just me perhaps.

 

[RODSCALIP5]

Mazda's consistantly get good reviews for being fun to drive. Ford is trying to build the brand into something resembling toyota (good luck on the reliability - but it would be nice to see our Pro's last 150,000 before major problems) and their acceptance as a nice reliable car. My parents and one of my brothers have the MPV - and considering it's a minivan - it handles and drives pretty nice.

About the pecker comment - I find the best thing to do in that situation is just whip it out and go with what god gave you. If you need an example ( http://hometown.aol.com/turbomicah/blank.txt -don't click unless you want to see my manh00d ) just hit the link that everyone on the forum has seen me post many times.

Devils Advocate time - nobody I know has ever blown their engine from adding suspension mods. I've never seen anyone unable to start their car in the cold because of a problem with coil-overs. The SRT-4 - while it may not handle the same as the MSP, can be upgraded - heck - even with Mopar parts which while the warranty support is grey area - it's still factory.

Back to the point though. Mazda does not have a competing product for the STI and EVO type cars. I personally like the Mazdaspeed 6 better. The mazdaspeed 6 does not have the boy ricer/racer look that cops love pulling over. With a more subdued look you are less likely to have all sorts of problems such as: car theft, car breakins, cops following, disapproving looks from parents - peers - co-workers - and others. You're also less likely to be chased for stop light races by every kid with a CAI/Exhaust.

What the Mazdaspeed 6 does have going for it is features - this alone should tell you it's not an EVO killer, it's trying to compete with a more upscale selection of vehicles. Look at the available features : heated mirrors, heated seats, 8-way power adjust seats, wheel mounted audio/cruise controls, bose sound, air filtration system (pollen filter - hepa), automatic climate control, front side window demisters, keyless entry system, delayed courtesy lamps and headlights, and other stuff.

I'm personally hoping the car doesn't sell well. I think the asking price is about 3k too high - well, from what I would like to pay. So - tell your friends - tell everyone you know - desparage the car on all fronts. Lay down in front of the dealership entrance. Chain yourself to the tires. Don't let them sell these cars. If sales can be stunted for the first 9 months the car is available, the dealerships will likely be begging us to take them off the lot for under MSRP.

But that's not likely to happen is it? Why not?

I like your thinking , just like the MSM it will be $6000 off MSRP at the end of the year. Mazdaspeed 6 for 21K ...........................I can dream cant I

 

[crossbow]

Btw, 04 GTO's are selling for 22k new. The 05's have left tons of 04's on the lot...so at 22k the 04 GTO is kinda of a steal for what you get...especially considering the literal books of mods available for that engine.

And ya, I'm sure the MPS will drop in price...its already being price gouged by most dealerships at MSRP or MSRP +2-4k. Give it 6-8 months when S-plan becomes available for use with it, and incentives start piling on. Or maybe we'll see a 2006.5 version with front mounted intercooler, 300 lbs less weight, and 8 inch wide rims with 245/40/17 tires.

 

[prlinding]

Hey captain...so is it the concept of analogies too much for your pathetic mind to relate too? And by the way stupid....a lot of hondas and toyotas are made in the good ole USA....DOES THAT MAKE HONDAS AND TOYOTAS DOMESTIC? What a ****** stupid thing to say.....built in australia...who cares.... that almost replaced any stupid comment dexter made....

And my question as to what he sells? Well if it had anything to do with performance enhancements to a car he'd be a hypocrate for trying to argue any point regarding cars going faster....in any direction be it straight or on a circuit.
Last time I checked the first person across any finish line.....WINS....not the slowest....I don't even know why I'm trying to even discuss this with you all
Cuz deep down.....you know I'm right....you are just in denial....

Also....why would mazda wait so long to replace a speed protege with another one....lack of a contigency....can be the only reason.....poor planning.....regardless of mazda's overhaul of a platform... why, when dodge effectively blew the mazda out of every competition wouldn't mazda have something to come back at them? That could have been a perfect excuse to make something completely different to compete and possibly beat out a competitor....if plan A doesn't work bust out B....I feel it was just another missed opportunity to really make a name for themselves.....if they really want to be the BMW of the east then they need to act like it....m series cars are some of the best cars ever built....can this be said about mazdaspeed?
Reliability is an issue with m cars too...but the owners don't complain because they know what they bought and its purpose built.....

Okay so mazda doesn't build a car the goes hella fast straight.....what kinda cars pay the bills.....regular 3's and 6's that's fine....I understand....but if they want to make a car go fast then it needs to be done the right way....I know they meant well..... but straight line fast cars pay the bills too some pretty big ones....especially in the aftermarket world...the SCCA has been around for a long time.....but it wasn't until NIRA came along aftermarkets started to pay attention to imports.....and they do what in which direction? Come on everybody......repeat after me.....they go fast straight.....

And like I said about rotaries....12a is just a lot easier to through into anything because they don't needs computers. I realize the 12a isn't the best rotary....but if I have a 1977 toyota corolla and I want quick power a 12a and the biggest port job I can put on it with a holley off of a space shuttle will do the trick.....

I don't want to make enemies here. Lets be friends all I wanted to do is discuss my disappointment with a vehicle which isn't shared and I can understand....but when I get bashed I tend to get pissed. This wasn't to flame anything or anybody. But there are flaws in everything....I just wanted to point a few out....so go **** yourselves if you want to be babies about it....those who don't then thank you for reading and posting objectively. Until we meet again.

 

[Dexter]

Everyone always complains about the Mazdaspeed cars. Its getting so ******* old. They never have enough power for anyone. If thats the case, buy a regular 6 and turbo it yourself, and of story. Or buy a different car. If you dont like the car, dont buy it. Its not for you. Its not for the uber enthusiast. None of the Mazdaspeed cars are, if you think about it. A car company creates a car, weather Mazdaspeed or regualr edition, to be driven as stock. It doesnt predict that you will want to up the boost or do any other crazy s***. They do R&D and testing and determine what their target demographic will like. Car modders are only a small percentage of car owners. So Mazdaspeed still needs to cater to those who don't mod and don't care. No one is forcing you to buy this car, or any Mazdaspeed car. If Mazdaspeed wants to make a car with upgraded handling, thats thier ******* choice. The cars will sell anyways. I'm going to go **** myself right now.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Hey captain...so is it the concept of analogies too much for your pathetic mind to relate too? And by the way stupid....a lot of hondas and toyotas are made in the good ole USA....DOES THAT MAKE HONDAS AND TOYOTAS DOMESTIC? What a ****** stupid thing to say.....built in australia...who cares.... that almost replaced any stupid comment dexter made....

excess use of periods doesn't make you look smart, chump. You are the one throwing "Detroit" out there, as though the big three are somehow getting in the act. No one in the USA had so much as a hand in designing the modern Goat.

spelling and punctuation are two things you should add to your seemingly vast repitoire before you start throwing around faux intellectual remarks.

And my question as to what he sells? Well if it had anything to do with performance enhancements to a car he'd be a hypocrate for trying to argue any point regarding cars going faster....in any direction be it straight or on a circuit.
Last time I checked the first person across any finish line.....WINS....not the slowest....I don't even know why I'm trying to even discuss this with you all
Cuz deep down.....you know I'm right....you are just in denial....

The fastest car doesn't always cross the finish line first. Fact. Performance modifications that vendor sells are not always geared towards increase of speed. Fact. You're making empty arguments about top speed. Not even in redneck NASCAR does the fastest car cross the line. They may only turn left but they still have to turn left well. Fact of the matter is, there is alot more than top speed to a real race. Fact of the matter is, you are locked into some tunnel vision about stoplight drag races. You know I'm right....you're just in denial

Also....why would mazda wait so long to replace a speed protege with another one....lack of a contigency....can be the only reason.....poor planning.....regardless of mazda's overhaul of a platform... why, when dodge effectively blew the mazda out of every competition wouldn't mazda have something to come back at them? That could have been a perfect excuse to make something completely different to compete and possibly beat out a competitor....if plan A doesn't work bust out B....I feel it was just another missed opportunity to really make a name for themselves.....if they really want to be the BMW of the east then they need to act like it....m series cars are some of the best cars ever built....can this be said about mazdaspeed?

whoever said they wanted to be the BMW of the east? Simply put, Ford owns Mazda and ultimately Mazda will be whatever type of marque Ford wants it to be. Mazda didn't level a gun at any platform or manufacturer saying "we're out to beat that company with this certain car." They didn't really give a s*** about the competition when they designed the mp3 and the msp. I have stacks of marketing materials from racing beat, mazda motorsports and their corporate magazines on these cars. Never once does Mazda so much as claim to have the fastest car, the most powerful car or the highest horsepower numbers. Every single interview and statement made on these cars is about BALANCE. That has been thier goal from day one.

Okay so mazda doesn't build a car the goes hella fast straight

only intelligent thing you've said today and one I wholeheartedly agree with. all you seem to talk about is light to light races and going fast in a straight so perhaps what you need is a gas guzzling dual exhaust hemi rather than anything in Mazda's current line up. if it doesn't make you happy for what you want from a car, don't buy one or trade it away.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

The cars will sell anyways.

Thats really the bottom ******* line. Mazda sold all of thier Mazdaspeed Proteges, most of them for over MSRP, more than what an SRT4 cost without a problem. If people didn't like the cars, they wouldn't sell - s*** they wouldn't pay more for a slower car if they didn't think the overall package was better. If they didn't sell, Mazda would see a problem with thier design philosophy and change it. Mazda's double digit sales growth in the last two years, in thier eyes, that justifies thier design path.

 

[JOS3]

Okay so mazda doesn't build a car the goes hella fast straight.....what kinda cars pay the bills.....regular 3's and 6's that's fine....I understand....but if they want to make a car go fast then it needs to be done the right way....I know they meant well..... but straight line fast cars pay the bills too some pretty big ones....especially in the aftermarket world...the SCCA has been around for a long time.....but it wasn't until NIRA came along aftermarkets started to pay attention to imports.....and they do what in which direction? Come on everybody......repeat after me.....they go fast straight.....

I don't want to make enemies here. Lets be friends all I wanted to do is discuss my disappointment with a vehicle which isn't shared and I can understand....but when I get bashed I tend to get pissed. This wasn't to flame anything or anybody. But there are flaws in everything....I just wanted to point a few out....so go **** yourselves if you want to be babies about it....those who don't then thank you for reading and posting objectively. Until we meet again.

i would just like to point out how ignorant you sound implying that the only thing that matters is straight-line speed. honestly, who gives a **** about stoplight-to-stoplight speed unless you are 16 years old? you know what the difference between a street ricer like you and a car enthusiast is? a car enthusiast cares about the overall level of fun a car has to offer. having said that, overall fun includes responsive steering, sharp handling, decent power, among many other variables. a ricer like yourself only cares about 1/4 mile times and racing between stoplights.

as dexter said earlier, if you dont like it, dont buy it. its as simple as that. also, to reiterate what the captain said, mazda has never set out to 'take-on' cars being offered by other companies. perhaps you misunderstand the concept of the 'zoom-zoom.' it doesnt mean that mazda thinks their cars are faster than everything else on the road. 'zoom-zoom' refers to fun factor that mazda automobiles offer. they may not be the fastest, but in terms of an overall package you would be hard-pressed to find a better value. go take a look at what a $20K mazda3 has to offer compared to a $20K toyota, honda, dodge or whatever. sure the srt-4 is fast, no one doubts that. but in terms of overall fun, it falls well short on my peoples lists' of desireable cars.

i would also like to point out your hypocritical statement by saying that you dont want to make enemies and lets all be friends, then telling everyone who disagrees to go **** themselves. if you consider us friends, then i would hate to see what you consider an enemy.