so what's the deal...

[Mikey444]

You go girl!!!

Last I checked, I am still a man (chair)

 

[Mazda3]

Everyone always complains about the Mazdaspeed cars. Its getting so ******* old. They never have enough power for anyone. If thats the case, buy a regular 6 and turbo it yourself, and of story. Or buy a different car. If you dont like the car, dont buy it. Its not for you. Its not for the uber enthusiast. None of the Mazdaspeed cars are, if you think about it. A car company creates a car, weather Mazdaspeed or regualr edition, to be driven as stock. It doesnt predict that you will want to up the boost or do any other crazy s***. They do R&D and testing and determine what their target demographic will like. Car modders are only a small percentage of car owners. So Mazdaspeed still needs to cater to those who don't mod and don't care. No one is forcing you to buy this car, or any Mazdaspeed car. If Mazdaspeed wants to make a car with upgraded handling, thats thier ******* choice. The cars will sell anyways. I'm going to go **** myself right now.

(rofl) (flame)

 

[prlinding]

Last I checked, I am still a man (chair)

maybe he said it cuz you are a b****.(321fu)

 

[crossbow]

Not to ruin this wonderful flame fest...but the problem with the MPS 6 doesn't really seem to be straightline speed...it seems to be in the handling department. All the reviews are pointing out excessive understeer is the primary characteristic of the MPS 6...and the latest review from MPH magazine points out the car has "a comical level of grip" and an almost completely useless AWD system.

I hope mazda revises it to have some wider rubber in a refresh, as that might enable the AWD system to stop randomly transfering power constantly and completely unsettling the car in a turn. (2006.5 MPS maybe?).

 

[Mazda3]

Not to ruin this wonderful flame fest...but the problem with the MPS 6 doesn't really seem to be straightline speed...it seems to be in the handling department. All the reviews are pointing out excessive understeer is the primary characteristic of the MPS 6...and the latest review from MPH magazine points out the car has "a comical level of grip" and an almost completely useless AWD system.

I hope mazda revises it to have some wider rubber in a refresh, as that might enable the AWD system to stop randomly transfering power constantly and completely unsettling the car in a turn. (2006.5 MPS maybe?).

I haven't read the MPH review is there a copy online somewhere?

 

[Mazda3]

I haven't read the MPH review is there a copy online somewhere?

Nevermind, I read it on the 6tech sight. The review is a complete joke by a completely unreliable source.

 

[crossbow]

Of course if it was positive, everyone would be posting it everywhere, pointing out what a great review it is.

Its a review of a pre-production car...which mimics reviews by other more reputable magazines in its discussion of the lack of nimbleness in the vehicle. Its not out of wack, or off key, it fits, its just far more direct then the higher reader count mags.

 

[Mazda3]

It also forgets to mention the track was wet when they drove it and they don't know how to drive.(doh)

 

[prlinding]

arent awd platforms supposed to improve handling on wet courses? What makes you think they dont know how to drive?

 

[crossbow]

Because its a negative review, so they must obviously not know what they are doing. Even though it mirrors some of the comments in the C&D review...

Then of course I'm mr evil anti MPS man, with a hateful biased towards the current MPS 6 design. Hoping that with my pure hatred, I'll be able to will mazda to redo it with a 2006.5 MPS 6.

Mazda3 just balances me out .

 

[prlinding]

i have to agree with crossbow. this is an extremely biased forum. no one can have an oppinion unless it conforms to the mainstream.

 

[Mazda3]

Because its a negative review, so they must obviously not know what they are doing. Even though it mirrors some of the comments in the C&D review...

Then of course I'm mr evil anti MPS man, with a hateful biased towards the current MPS 6 design. Hoping that with my pure hatred, I'll be able to will mazda to redo it with a 2006.5 MPS 6.

Mazda3 just balances me out .

(enguard)

 

[JOS3]

i have to agree with crossbow. this is an extremely biased forum. no one can have an oppinion unless it conforms to the mainstream.

you guys are idiots. its has nothing to do with having your own opinion, or conforming to mainstream. you want the mazdaspeed6 to compete with the evo and the sti. what i am trying to explain to you is that mazda never set out to do that. if that were the case, they would have made a 270 hp, awd, mazda3. mazda wanted the ms6 to be a practical and refined car with nice performance. they did not build the ms6 for the fast and furious crowd. hence the lack of huge roof scoop (which it could have since it has a top-mount intercooler), huge wing, and wild/aggresive body kit. my response is not biased. i havent driven the ms6 or even a regular 6 for that matter. i do however, understand what the purpose of the car is and who it was built for.

 

[obender66]

you guys are idiots. its has nothing to do with having your own opinion, or conforming to mainstream. you want the mazdaspeed6 to compete with the evo and the sti. what i am trying to explain to you is that mazda never set out to do that. if that were the case, they would have made a 270 hp, awd, mazda3. mazda wanted the ms6 to be a practical and refined car with nice performance. they did not build the ms6 for the fast and furious crowd. hence the lack of huge roof scoop (which it could have since it has a top-mount intercooler), huge wing, and wild/aggresive body kit. my response is not biased. i havent driven the ms6 or even a regular 6 for that matter. i do however, understand what the purpose of the car is and who it was built for.

And I must ask-why nobody's complaining about A4 3.0-"Only 220 hp for $33,000..." Grow the **** up!

 

[JOS3]

(mswerd)

 

[crossbow]

(gossip)

 

[JOS3]

(peep)

 

[colin949]

(flame2) (flame2) [:flip: (flame2) (birthday) :mad: yeah i thought i would had to the faces add to conclude with a : ) haha the mazdaspeed 6 is great car even if it understeers or oversteers or goes 0-60 in 6 second or if someone complains about someone else complaing about someone complains, or anything like that, soo yeah my input take it or leave it oh yeah : ) ( :

 

[madmerv]

(flame2) (flame2) [:flip: (flame2) (birthday) :mad: yeah i thought i would had to the faces add to conclude with a : ) haha the mazdaspeed 6 is great car even if it understeers or oversteers or goes 0-60 in 6 second or if someone complains about someone else complaing about someone complains, or anything like that, soo yeah my input take it or leave it oh yeah : ) ( :

Yeah! What he said!!!!!!

What the heck did he say anyway? (wrc)

 

[prlinding]

if you say so, but one tends to wonder if below your own name it says flippin idiot, how much credibility you can have when trying to make a statement. it'll sell no question. but when editors of reputable magazines and who know how to drive like the ones over at motor trend and car and driver and road and track all wonder if all of the bells and whistles are worth it, i will agree. one editor even said maybe Zoom-Zoom should be spelled with a lower case "z" but theyre idiots too right?