Simple mods/upgrades

[NCZ13]

lil child im just gonna say this. you need to do ALOT of reading before you go off and get a "fast" car. reading your posts really makes me wonder how much you know, it doesnt seem like you know enough about the basics about intake and exhaust, judgine by all the posts ive read from you. you ask repeated questions to which people give you the same answers. this wont pass on boards like honda-tech. guess how many threads there are on intake and exhaust... ONE. which i think, is what each of our mazda forums need to have. a intake and exhaust sticky.

im not trying to insult you, but help you in the long run, people wont always be as nice on other boards. a really good way, rather than asking the same question over and over that is simply answered by the search button, is to just lurk on honda forums, or mitsu forums, and just read. dont ask questions. read. type in port and polish in the search and read as much as you can on it. lurking on other forums is the best way to expand automotive knowledge.

i think its stupid taht you want to sell your car just because you cant get it fast with a couple of basic bolt ons. i think its very juvenile, and in my opinion its better to start small and slow before you jump up and make an investment in something you know little about, just to get to 60mph faster. youve already said you dont have the money for a proper exhaust, so how are you going to afford another car even if you do sell the protege

 

[red95_240sx]

Lilchild u cud trade for a 240sx.

IukekiniProtege is right the most we can do is lower it get some rims, tint,etc.

I have to include to that that my weapon-r SRI is a very functional intake.

Like i said, our cars can still be JDMed.

 

[jster28]

lil child im just gonna say this. you need to do ALOT of reading before you go off and get a "fast" car. reading your posts really makes me wonder how much you know, it doesnt seem like you know enough about the basics about intake and exhaust, judgine by all the posts ive read from you. you ask repeated questions to which people give you the same answers. this wont pass on boards like honda-tech. guess how many threads there are on intake and exhaust... ONE. which i think, is what each of our mazda forums need to have. a intake and exhaust sticky.

im not trying to insult you, but help you in the long run, people wont always be as nice on other boards. a really good way, rather than asking the same question over and over that is simply answered by the search button, is to just lurk on honda forums, or mitsu forums, and just read. dont ask questions. read. type in port and polish in the search and read as much as you can on it. lurking on other forums is the best way to expand automotive knowledge.

i think its stupid taht you want to sell your car just because you cant get it fast with a couple of basic bolt ons. i think its very juvenile, and in my opinion its better to start small and slow before you jump up and make an investment in something you know little about, just to get to 60mph faster. youve already said you dont have the money for a proper exhaust, so how are you going to afford another car even if you do sell the protege

(werd)(iagree) Your not going to get much money for selling the protege. I practically gave my protege away. I parted out the car, and returned it to near stock. I was offered 2000 for trade in at a dealer. that was (ghey). I ended up selling it for 3900, privately. my car only had 96k miles in excellent cond and blue book was 5500. Sold it cheap to get rid of it quick. I would recommend keeping the protege and keep it as is, if you dont have the funds. Save up some money, until you have money for another car and then sell it.

 

[lilchild87]

(werd)(iagree) Your not going to get much money for selling the protege. I practically gave my protege away. I parted out the car, and returned it to near stock. I was offered 2000 for trade in at a dealer. that was (ghey). I ended up selling it for 3900, privately. my car only had 96k miles in excellent cond and blue book was 5500. Sold it cheap to get rid of it quick. I would recommend keeping the protege and keep it as is, if you dont have the funds. Save up some money, until you have money for another car and then sell it.

i will sell it around 4k or so and i have a friend that works on rebates of cars and with 4k he can get me a really good car.. from a 240sx to a 3000gt... any brands..any car

Dude he got my dad a 96' Audi S90 2.8 5 SPD IN PERFECT CONDITIONS for 2500 bucks.. the car was clean title.. 85000 original miles on it.. so think

 

[NCZ13]

lil child, you do realize you have alot to learn, im just telling you this because no matter what car you have, it still costs money to build it up. make sure you know what your doing before you jump in.

 

[lilchild87]

lil child, you do realize you have alot to learn, im just telling you this because no matter what car you have, it still costs money to build it up. make sure you know what your doing before you jump in.

Then what can you say if i get lets say a 300zx.. 200hp 200tq

How much money do i have to spend on my protege to reach that?

I want you to tell me how much money and which things to buy

Don't forget the extra handwork i'll pay to put those things in my car

Thx! (2thumbs)

 

[NCZ13]

Then what can you say if i get lets say a 300zx.. 200hp 200tq

How much money do i have to spend on my protege to reach that?

I want you to tell me how much money and which things to buy

Don't forget the extra handwork i'll pay to put those things in my car

Thx! (2thumbs)

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no, you figure it out. thats the point of all this. figuring things out on your own.

im pretty sure a turboed 1.6 ltr engine can make 180 whp on low boost... with the proper tuning.

after all, 200hp on a 300zx would be at the crank. not at the wheels. subtract 25-30 hp and tahts the realistic whp

 

[lilchild87]

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no, you figure it out. thats the point of all this. figuring things out on your own.

im pretty sure a turboed 1.6 ltr engine can make 180 whp on low boost... with the proper tuning.

after all, 200hp on a 300zx would be at the crank. not at the wheels. subtract 25-30 hp and tahts the realistic whp

The cheapest turbo i saw for the 1.6 cost 1700 w/o intercooler

It will be a total of 3000 w/ intercooler and tuning

So on any stock car you need to subtract 25 hp to get the real power?

 

[camerazn]

The cheapest turbo i saw for the 1.6 cost 1700 w/o intercooler

It will be a total of 3000 w/ intercooler and tuning

So on any stock car you need to subtract 25 hp to get the real power?

Rule of thumb, yes. It depends on the amount of rotating mass and the friction of all the spinny parts. That's among the reasons you don't see chromed 22" spinners on drag racers. Those wheels are a lot of rotating mass that the engine has to get up to speed, rather than putting all that power on the ground.

 

[NCZ13]

The cheapest turbo i saw for the 1.6 cost 1700 w/o intercooler

It will be a total of 3000 w/ intercooler and tuning

So on any stock car you need to subtract 25 hp to get the real power?

power comes at a cost. sure you can sell your car, MAYBE get 4k for it then what. your gonna try to find the cleanest lowest mileage car possible. lets say you find it. then what? theres going to be other cars faster than yours. things on the car might need to be replaced. tires brakes paint repair. timing belt water pump. you have a perfectly fine working car right now. learn from it. then move on.

 

[lilchild87]

Rule of thumb, yes. It depends on the amount of rotating mass and the friction of all the spinny parts. That's among the reasons you don't see chromed 22" spinners on drag racers. Those wheels are a lot of rotating mass that the engine has to get up to speed, rather than putting all that power on the ground.

The smallest your wheels are, the quicker your car speeds up on a take off

 

[NCZ13]

is that a question?

 

[lilchild87]

is that a question?

no

 

[camerazn]

The smallest your wheels are, the quicker your car speeds up on a take off

For two reasons. The first is the additional wheel torque you get by having smaller diameter wheels. The second is that smaller wheels are lighter leech less power than bigger, heavier ones.

It's the same reason you can get a carbon fiber drive shaft (at huge cost) for some cars. Lighter spinny bits = less mass that needs to be rotated = less energy spent spinning the heavy things = more energy to the road.

 

[jster28]

i will sell it around 4k or so and i have a friend that works on rebates of cars and with 4k he can get me a really good car.. from a 240sx to a 3000gt... any brands..any car

Dude he got my dad a 96' Audi S90 2.8 5 SPD IN PERFECT CONDITIONS for 2500 bucks.. the car was clean title.. 85000 original miles on it.. so think

Dude, Audi never made a s90 in 1996. The only models available for 1996 was is A4, A6, S6, and cabriolett. And its 90S not S90. The audi 90S was only made from 93-95. Know plently of Vw/audi stuff, from having owned serveral vw's.

also for a 300zx it a heavy ass car, weights like 3000+ pound. It might have 200hp, but that is at the crank not to the wheels. Its about power to weight ratio. The one with the 200hp is only the bottom end to middle end 300zx. there is a 280hp one, the 300zx twin turbo, good luck finding that for cheap. Or a mitsu 3000gt vr4 twin turbo awd. these cars might have 300hp, but weight over 3000lbs, and it takes ton of more $ to get more hp out of them. When a 2000 car with like 200hp can blow the doors off it, and they have spent less money.

You can make a turbo system for the protege for 1000, if you custom it.
buy the parts individually, not some bolt-on already made kit. You just need to know where to find the parts for good prices and know what your doing, and some fab skills.

 

[red95_240sx]

basily...you have a base model japanese econo car.

 

[Not Jo3L]

I would take a turbo 1.6 protege over any car i could get for 4,000.

And ive looked at plenty of cars. My parents only wanted to spend 5,000 on me.

looked at some wrecked cars that needed body work..tiburon, gti, integras, even a 300zx

they were all nice cars but it wasnt worth fixing them up to find more probs with them

so end of story i got my protege for 1,000 and needed to replace front struts, wires, plugs, timing belt, wheels, and removed various dents and dings.

all in all 3,000 spent on my baby

 

[lilchild87]

Well you guys are right on weight.. and stuff.. i just got home from the road and i made a lot of hard fast turns to test the protege and yeah it turns fast as hell!!

Specially better if you have wide and low profile tires.. sorry for making this thread so long guys

I will keep my baby.. will put a weapon R ram air with a K&N panel filter and may get a cat-back but people were complaining saying that it make you lose torque?? Not sure about that

Then either cams, or pulleys.. something with small gain

 

[Not Jo3L]

you should get an underdrive pulley and lightened flywheel

 

[jster28]

get the light weight flywheel. I was one of the very few 1.6l owners that had it. not a lot of people knew that you can use the 1.6 miata flywheel. If get it, might as well put in a new clutch, since your down in anyways.

Oh yeah, the car will handle even better if you slam the crap out of it. Maybe not like what i did, 3.5"-4"drop. Get a 2" drop, that is pretty nice handling and comfortable for daily driver. I had coilover and springs, i reccommend you stay away from coilovers (especially Skunk2 coilover) unless they are full coilovers. Springs are your best bet.