Short Ram Vs. Cold Air Intake

[BoyBlue4You]

So like I've mentioned before I am new here...to MSP's and all but I personally have the Injen CAI intake..how is that for performance wise...because if i think about it it makes since that yeah cold air= better air for the motor to increase hp's but if you have the short ram it would be quicker turbo spool no? does anyone really know the difference in power spool and sound and all that which is really better?

 

[joesmazdaspeed]

So like I've mentioned before I am new here...to MSP's and all but I personally have the Injen CAI intake..how is that for performance wise...because if i think about it it makes since that yeah cold air= better air for the motor to increase hp's but if you have the short ram it would be quicker turbo spool no? does anyone really know the difference in power spool and sound and all that which is really better?

i have a short ram but i cant say i can tell you the difference because i have never tried the normal ones

 

[69RMSP]

ahhhhh don't bring this up lol.... If you get some guys going they wont stop

run while you can!

from what I understand....

CAI better for cold air
SRi better for throttle responce

aslo.... Don't quote me on this but I thnik they are pretty much useless with our small turbos maybe 3-5 whp

 

[BoyBlue4You]

lol...probably ... but yeah i knew about the basics i was jw if it changed for our cars or made a difference is there already a big thread on this?

 

[69RMSP]

massive.... I fear it...

lol...probably ... but yeah i knew about the basics i was jw if it changed for our cars or made a difference is there already a big thread on this?

 

[micahlarson]

yeah right? I don't even want to ask one of the guys at work.. cause I"m sure he'll start making crazy hand gestures and start drawing and everything else.. but just 69rsm said.. CAI for mass HP and SR for throttle response in most situations, although in are situation with small engines.. low boost.. and an already semi tuned car.. I don't think it should be the first thing you do unless you plan on getting your car tuned.. then get it done right away after exhaust

 

[frosted]

Never 3-5whp. Especially for a short ram, you won't gain anything and might even be losing some power as it is taking warmer air from the engine bay vs colder air from the CAI and the stock setup. But all in all, it's more for the sound than the performance. Especially for the price of the Injen CAI.

 

[zumzumzoom03]

I've had both Injen CAI and AEM SRI. Didn't notice a difference between the two. I stuck with SRI because the risk of hydrolocking your engine is less and that out weighs any hp gain.

 

[reg_2004]

yea but what are the chances to hydroloc anyways - you got to run through a decient sized puddle to do that, plus with the splash gards its got to be hard to do that

 

[Knox Joe]

^^^^^^

I just don't drive the MSP in the rain ever, but I also have the luxury of having other vehicles to drive.

I'm starting to question why I have a FWD car as my secondary "fun" car though.

 

[Luni]

I'm starting to questiong why I have a FWD car as my secondary "fun" car though.

QFT..

Mazdaspeeds are great cars. But your fun car should be RWD or AWD!

 

[Knox Joe]

QFT..

Mazdaspeeds are great cars. But your fun car should be RWD or AWD!

I'm thinking of givin the MSP to the fiance (leaving it a little hopped up), and go trade her Mitsu Mirage in for a new Evo X....


...though, there is a matching titanium Mazdaspeed Miata down the road, they'd make a cute couple. Do em both with bronze rims, and a few minor mods.

 

[Kypatrick]

I have heard problems with the CAI, like water in the intake or the piping rubbing the body (in that whole). I think alot of people on here hav converted their CAI into SRI.

 

[RenzoMSP]

I never felt a difference between sri or cai.

 

[BoyBlue4You]

well thanx guys anymore info is welcome i just wasnt sure if i should convert to the sri from my injen cai

 

[dirtysouth_msp]

I went short ram because I have a FMIC and live in GA where weather is very unpredictable. I made a "baffle" to keep the hot air from the fans off of the filter. Simple? Yes. Functional? I would have to say so, at least to some extent. Using a diagnostic scanner I monitored the IAT readings with and without the baffle and there was a average difference of about 7-8 degrees, lol.

 

[Bala]

I went short ram because I have a FMIC and live in GA where weather is very unpredictable. I made a "baffle" to keep the hot air from the fans off of the filter. Simple? Yes. Functional? I would have to say so, at least to some extent. Using a diagnostic scanner I monitored the IAT readings with and without the baffle and there was a average difference of about 7-8 degrees, lol.

That is clean - Well done. (thumb)


*Edit - both my Pro's have CAI's

 

[dirtysouth_msp]

That is clean - Well done. (thumb)


*Edit - both my Pro's have CAI's

Thanks!

 

[FlyinMSP]

Stock box is the best

 

[jdm4lyf9]

To be honest I think I was getting more hp out of the stock air box with my K&N filter in it. The injen CAI sounds really cool but after a while it gets boaring. I would like to try a SRI but I don't know where to get one for the MSP.