dirtysouth_msp
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jdm4lyf9 said:
If you have an Injen, then you already have a SRI. Just leave off the 2nd piece of pipe.
Short Ram Vs. Cold Air Intake
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If you have an Injen, then you already have a SRI. Just leave off the 2nd piece of pipe.
kicker22705
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i'm getting my laptop back soon. i'll hook it up to my microtech and see what the IAT is for both CAI and SRI.
dirtysouth_msp
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Lol, I would not know what to charge and I'd probably want to make a slightly more advanced design if I were to try and sell them. It's not too hard to make just use cardboard to make a template. Trace you template to some reasonably thick sheet metal (too thick and you have a hell of a time cutting and bending). Cut out your design, make the necessary bends and drill your mounting hole. Paint it whatever color you want (gray was the only thing I had handy at work when I made it). I used split vac line, zip ties and drilled a bunch of small holes for the zip ties to go through to make the edges look nice. You can use one of those cheesy little creditcard letter openers to split the vac line, it works great.
Kypatrick said:
It (the stock box) may look more restrictive but it isn't. When I had my AEM CAI I put it beside the stock piping and checked it's lenght, the degrees of the elbows and it actually turns out that the CAI had more bends (it has an extra 45 degrees) than the OEM box! And it'a also longer.
Since I've lost the Calloway elbow ages ago, I've put a longer flexible aluminium tubing that goes right to the headlamp, there's a lot of high pressure cool air coming from there. I also use a flexible heat-shield (a Termo-Tech shield for a cat converters) on the left side of the box and over the tubing to cut the hot air coming from the fans. It's very simple.
I did quite a bit of testing (also with SRI and such), and I use a short "test-strip" (in an industrial area, when nobody's around) and regardless of butt-dyno feeling, with the stock box I get a higher speed (130 Km/h, 3rd gear, compared with 125 Km/h with other setups) before my braking point (there's a fire hydrant that I use as a mark). I've done many passes and it's consistent. Maybe at high RPM the CAI is better, but it seems to lose some torque at the bottom. That's my guess. First and second gear have more torque with the stock box, I'm quite positive on that
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dirtysouth_msp
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FlyinMSP said:It (the stock box) may look more restrictive but it isn't. When I had my AEM CAI I put it beside the stock piping and checked it's lenght, the degrees of the elbows and it actually turns out that the CAI had more bends (it has an extra 45 degrees) than the OEM box! And it'a also longer.
Since I've lost the Calloway elbow ages ago, I've put a longer flexible aluminium tubing that goes right to the headlamp, there's a lot of high pressure cool air coming from there. I also use a flexible heat-shield (a Termo-Tech shield for a cat converters) on the left side of the box and over the tubing to cut the hot air coming from the fans. It's very simple.
I did quite a bit of testing (also with SRI and such), and I use a short "test-strip" (in an industrial area, when nobody's around) and regardless of butt-dyno feeling, with the stock box I get a higher speed (130 Km/h, 3rd gear, compared with 125 Km/h with other setups) before my braking point (there's a fire hydrant that I use as a mark). I've done many passes and it's consistent. Maybe at high RPM the CAI is better, but it seems to lose some torque at the bottom. That's my guess. First and second gear have more torque with the stock box, I'm quite positive on that
Makes sense, intakes are usually designed for upper rpm power.
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it does not come to a 45 degree. It is mandrel bent....obviously. Which does not deminish airflow. Personally I don't think they could have done better job w/ that particular location. There are definitely better locations to put it.
I can start to understand why some say stock airbox is better, because temperatures are more consistent and helps w/ the tuning of the car. Just depends what your looking for I guess.
A short ram would be ill concieved unless there was a shield blocking heat from the engine.
I can start to understand why some say stock airbox is better, because temperatures are more consistent and helps w/ the tuning of the car. Just depends what your looking for I guess.
A short ram would be ill concieved unless there was a shield blocking heat from the engine.
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Living in mountains I'd much prefer more power from higher rpm's due to the stress of gravity (sucks with 130hp). I'd like to stay away from 3500 rpm or higher in 4th or not enough power in 5th to keep up with traffic (yes uphill). But heres a new question..... would an exhaust or cai be more effective for hp gain for the $$$?
Metallic36
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I would say exhaust.
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What about if you remove the air box and just put a filter in the MAFS? Thats what i did. No extra piping just pure air intake. Imagine the stock airbox but with holes all around it taking in more air. (I havent tested it because my tranny is out for an LSD replacement.. but cant wait to!)
Metallic36
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Yeah, I've done that before.. it works too. The only thing with that is there's a lot more length to the piping than if it were a real sri.
JasonBourne
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where did you put the IAT in the SRI, mine it's haggin near the air filter.
