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Sermons from Mosques in Great Britain
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You know, I tried to watch this video but it just reinforced my beliefs that all muslims are not to be trusted. Every time you turn around there is another Mosque that is found to be catering to the radical muslims. Like the video states, if you are not muslim you are the enemy and should die. That in it's self shows that muslims all of them should be treated as terrorist and dealt with accordingly. If that makes me a bigot then so be it. I'll wear that badge with pride! For those that don't see it that way, just wait one day you will. Some think that this war on terrorism IS the next World War! It's not fought like any war we've ever fought. It will be in our own back yards. And if you don't take care of the muslims now, America will end up like Britain and one day will be fighting it here.Donas64 said:This is some undercover footage from a UK Channel 4 television show documentary. I think that these are from mosques that claim to be moderate. I will not state my opinions on these forums, I would like to hear yours. Remember this is in Great Britain, no Saudi Arabia or some other foreign country. While Great Britian is bending over backwards to integrate and welcome Muslims into its society, I don't know if its working.
Question to Moderate Muslims: Do these Muslims threaten you? Do you fear that they have hijacked your religion?
Your thoughts are welcome
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24018_dispatches-_undercover_mosque&only
Note: The videos are about 25 mins total viewing so you might want to sub for later. Interesting to watch.
Believe it or not, I hate feeling this way. Being a Veteran, I have put my life on the line to serve ALL people that call themselves American weather they are Christians, Jews, or what ever. But at some point you have to decide who the enemy is and defeat them. If you listen to that video, they call all Americans and Europeans Kaffaars or infidels! They say that we should all be killed. And if you noticed that place it always packed! I bet the muslims that go there work with people that also have no idea that they feel that way. They are sneaky! They will try to trick you into thinking you are their friend so that you let them close. Then they wait until they are called upon to strike. I prey that this doesnt happen to any of us.
I too, look forward to your response.MiaTurbo said:I was too tired to post last night after watching it, and haven't had more than 5 minutes today to get online. But as one of the only Muslims on the forum, i will promise you I will sit down tonight and write a response tonight.
Now I understand the response to my first post!(ohsnap!)MiaTurbo said:I was too tired to post last night after watching it, and haven't had more than 5 minutes today to get online. But as one of the only Muslims on the forum, i will promise you I will sit down tonight and write a response tonight.
He's posting on other threads. I guess he's not too tired after all.(peep)Hughes412 said:I too, look forward to your response.
Donas64 said:*Crickets Chirping*
I guess that the hijack of a religion my extremist jihadists is not really that big of a deal.
Mods could you close this thread please. I'm kinda dissapointed that we didn't get a muslim point of view on this.
Im tired of threads that call me to defend my religion. Why am I put on the spot and not someone else. Let me practice in peace. I dont care about fundy's living in the UK.
Donas, I suggest you look up the local Muslim masjid and ask the cleric there. He can give you the best answer.
JAREK_EB said:I really hope that these Muslims exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, support violence are the exception and not the rule.
Thats the thing, this video shows the extremists. Just more bulls*** propaganda to make muslims that are quiet look like assholes. Its not fair that I have been grouped with those *****.
Moeed said:Thats the thing, this video shows the extremists. Just more bulls*** propaganda to make muslims that are quiet look like assholes. Its not fair that I have been grouped with those *****.
I don't see it as BS propaganda. Those people in that mosque were not hiding. It wasn't a secret meeting in a back room somewhere. It was a prominent and well respected and by the looks of it well attended Mosque in Great Britain.
When will member of the Muslim community stop passing the buck, stand up to those extremists among you and say:
What you are practicing is a perversion of Islam and it will not be tolerated. Cease preaching this hatred and poision or get the heck out!
Instead what I hear a lot of is: Its not fair that we (muslims) are getting picked on. Everyone stop looking at us suspiciously.
I don't look at muslims suspiciously but it does worry me when a supposedly moderate majority stands silent and let a few extremists shape the worlds view of their religion.
If The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) spent as much time denouncing and rebuking radical Islamists as it did campaigning against the TV show 24 (its just a show folks) and getting its pants in a bunch when Imams act suspiciously on airlines, maybe Americans would not veiw muslims with such suspicion.
But frankly I see very little effort on the Muslim side to quell these fears.
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Moeed said:Im tired of threads that call me to defend my religion. Why am I put on the spot and not someone else. Let me practice in peace. I dont care about fundy's living in the UK.
Donas, I suggest you look up the local Muslim masjid and ask the cleric there. He can give you the best answer.
I'm not asking for a defense at all. I'm just asking a question to which an answer seems fleeting. I believe we all want to practice in peace. I as a Christian want to practice my religion in peace. If there was a wacko U.S. sect screaming "DEATH THE THE UNBELIEVERS IN THE NAME OF JESUS" and claiming to be Christians, the Christian community in the United states would put forth a United front and make it clear to the world that these people have no part of our religion and their threats are not based in scripture. I am just curious as to why there is no such movement in the world stage on the part of the muslim community.
I agree you yourself are not responsible for the teachings of some radical, but Muslims as a whole should have some sort of voice right?
No I wouldn't say that. This is a real problem with real server consiquences. What Donas said is nothing more then the facts. Most poeple feel that way. Just think if the peaceful Muslims stood up against these radical muslims and told them NO MORE the war in Iraq could be over! But instead they sit on their hands and do nothing. WHY IS THAT?ZoomZoomH said:this thread is starting to sound more and more like a witchhunt
ZoomZoomH said:this thread is starting to sound more and more like a witchhunt
I can't help it if no one wants to speak about whats going on. Like I said earlier. Mods please close the thread. I was expecting more of a dialogue. I'm not looking for anyone to slander or blame, I'm just trying to gain some perspective. Once again, Mods please close this thread.
Hughes412 said:No I wouldn't say that. This is a real problem with real server consiquences. What Donas said is nothing more then the facts. Most poeple feel that way. Just think if the peaceful Muslims stood up against these radical muslims and told them NO MORE the war in Iraq could be over! But instead they sit on their hands and do nothing. WHY IS THAT?
I guess we'll never find that answer. Oh well. I think the question was still worth asking. I guess I and a few others such as yourself were the only ones who thought so.
That's the sad thing. People now days don't care unless it effects them personally. But by that time it's to late to do anything about.Donas64 said:I guess we'll never find that answer. Oh well. I think the question was still worth asking. I guess I and a few others such as yourself were the only ones who thought so.
Hughes412 said:Just think if the peaceful Muslims stood up against these radical muslims and told them NO MORE the war in Iraq could be over!
if Bush never went to Iraq in the first place THERE WOULD BE NO WAR
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