s afc ii

[AutoBox]

i dont think its an issue of workin....turboge got the e-manage to work but its a fact that the ecu some how adjusts to the inputs adjusted by the e-manage...he stated that after turnin of the car and turnin back on all his imput changes were forgottena nd he would have massive detonation....what confuses me is how were are the only cars with ecus that have this open loop close loop config...there isnt another car with it that we can learn from???

 

[perfworks]

what did they do to get it working use resistors ?

Nope , seperate control module we came up with. We were waiting till after the holidays to market it.
I will comment more this week.

 

[hukster00]

ok, thanks

 

[perfworks]

Perfworks and Wagner got it to work on my MSP

We need to meet up again, so i can finish up. Call me after the holidays if you get a chance.

 

[CarlM2]

Is the PCM similar to the Ford Focus? Maybe someone on a Focus board has found something that works.

 

[AutoBox]

thats what im sayin....cus im in the market for a decent management setup nuttin expensive thou like stand alone...i was planin to get the e-manage until turboge hit some road blocks......i think i will still end up gettin it thou

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Nobody's been able to crack the Protege ECU (as far as I know)

Flyin' Protege in combination with another company spent a year trying to reverse engineer it. They had no success and thier partner gave up.

 

[AutoBox]

damn just put us in a deeper hole why dont ya

 

[Installshield 2]

To the thread starter:

A 1k ohm resistor will not work...There is no way to mount anything simply inline between the AFC and the ECU to get the needed voltage numbers...it gets really complicated and there are huge amounts of hidden variables the ECU employs between different load points/startup/no load etc...the engineers behind our ECU made it very accurate, and if the ECU does not see exactly what it needs the car will not run...defeating the purpose of the fuel controller altogether...To put it simply, the AFC is skewing the voltage to the ECU severely...and no device mounted between the two that i have seen will be able to correct it in every spectrum of engine operation...which is why Nick used something that isn't anywhere near as simple



So you and Andy got some testing done, Nick? Sounds great, PM me with the details if you get a chance...

 

[perfworks]

To the thread starter:

A 1k ohm resistor will not work...There is no way to mount anything simply inline between the AFC and the ECU to get the needed voltage numbers...it gets really complicated and there are huge amounts of hidden variables the ECU employs between different load points/startup/no load etc...the engineers behind our ECU made it very accurate, and if the ECU does not see exactly what it needs the car will not run...defeating the purpose of the fuel controller altogether...To put it simply, the AFC is skewing the voltage to the ECU severely...and no device mounted between the two that i have seen will be able to correct it in every spectrum of engine operation...which is why Nick used something that isn't anywhere near as simple



So you and Andy got some testing done, Nick? Sounds great, PM me with the details if you get a chance...

will do

 

[jus10 msp]

perfworks great info. pm me so i can get more info on this product. i tried the e-management with spool too. but it would go right to lean as soon as you cut the car on. yes its a pain. i've done alot of honda's but my mazda is much hard to understand. we know the e management works on the mp3. so it must be the msp pcm. i would rather have the s afcII so i can tune on the fly. and i don't have to have laptop like with the e-management or the e05 by greddy. keep trying and keep us informed.

thanks justin h

 

[MSP Chris]

I called up diablo, the one who makes chip for mustangs and focus. They said since our pcm is along the same guidelines as a focus that they will look into future development...not sure how far that will go.

 

[BinaryRotary]

The old Apexi AFC works just fine on a Protege, so I've heard.

 

[jus10 msp]

need more info so keep me informed everyone.

thanks justin

 

[AutoBox]

yeh me as well cus im at the point that i really would like a nice piggyback system......safc or e-manage....just something relatively cheap

 

[speedfrk]

I Have emailed WWW.superchipscustoms.com they have done mazdas and wont have any trouble doing ours . thier system turns the stock pcm into your standalone and wont fight anything it changes everything in the pcm directly with laptop type setup. They may not look into it until next year if they dont have enough interest . but I will try hard to get one setup for our cars when I get the money for this.

 

[AutoBox]

The old Apexi AFC works just fine on a Protege, so I've heard.

whats the difference between the old and new safc?? didnt they just add more features or is it totaly redesigned?? someone let me know asap cus i really need one

 

[jred321]

original afc http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33598&item=2450990275

this is the first i've heard of it working

 

[hukster00]

the old one still works on the 0-5v signal range as dose the new one, if the old one works the new one shoud to, other then that the new one has more features

 

[hukster00]