RPF1 or PF01??

Which one?!

  • RPF1

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • PF01

    Votes: 8 88.9%

  • Total voters
    9
PF01. Do it.

I'm not sure why, but I've never been too fond of RPF1-style rims; the MazdaSpeed Rays are very similar. I think the brighter finish and and the wider, higher-angled inner lip make the wheel look smaller than the actual size.

...then again, I may also be talking out of my a**...

-Jay
 
Why only those 2 choices?! RPF-1 is like a de facto wheel these days. WTF is up with that?! I understand the size/weight deal, but gosh... way to be original!

Either way, my vote is to neither, but if I had to chose it'd be PF-01.
 
You can have 2 choices, but of something unique. I don't understand the fascination with standardization.
 
Why are you so keen on lightweight rims? Just curious not bashing. To my understanding its not always beneficial to have lighter wheels. If its the look then i understand but if your buying them solely for them being lightweight then whats your reason for needing them to be light i guess is my overall question.
 
Why are you so keen on lightweight rims? Just curious not bashing. To my understanding its not always beneficial to have lighter wheels. If its the look then i understand but if your buying them solely for them being lightweight then whats your reason for needing them to be light i guess is my overall question.


Price has a lot to do with it. My local shop gave me an excellent deal and losing some 7lbs a corner doesn't hurt.
 
Why are you so keen on lightweight rims? Just curious not bashing. To my understanding its not always beneficial to have lighter wheels. If its the look then i understand but if your buying them solely for them being lightweight then whats your reason for needing them to be light i guess is my overall question.

Lightweight = better performance all around period..

Looks are opinion speed is fact. I guess is what comes to mind, but yea im wondering if thats what hes looking for
 
Specifically this link within that last link i provided. There was another one but it appears to no longer work. I realize the overall concept and how it would make sense for lighter wheels to equate to overall better speed. But its really a hit or miss. But im not arguing the fact that it is not an improvement in performance. But at the same time you will need to eliminate allot of weight for a noticable performance gain. Just my .2

http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=7019&highlight=unsprung+and+weight
 
I actually went through all of those threads, about 65% of them were dead. Did some reading on other forums. A couple of restrictions included the fact that I did not want to roll fenders if avoidable, had to be lighter than stock, and had to look good, and there were certain brands that I chose to stay away from either from personal experience or anecdotal evidence. The result? PF01's that will be here this week.
 
Good to know bro, i wasnt trying to push you away from what you wanted, i was simply curious for your reasoning thats all. But you seem to of done your homework and know what you want which is solely up to you. Either way post pics when you get them on. Are you low?
 
Lightweight = better performance all around period..

Looks are opinion speed is fact. I guess is what comes to mind, but yea im wondering if thats what hes looking for
SO true!
I went from OEM 6 wheels (around 23) to my BBS's (around 18) and could feel a huge difference.
 
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?96891-Effects-of-Wheel-Size-Weight-on-Performance

There are a few articles in here that say otherwise. Eliminating rotational weight is not always a gain for performance. Its dependent on the purpose of driving for the specific vehicle.



While there are certain aspects like a Lightened flywheel that come to mind that can affect performance negatively if you have a small motor and no real power on certain grades of road maybe. Im not sure. A lighter wheel equals better braking, response, quicker acceleration as well. Im sure as you stated there are other things. Durability of a lighter wheel come into play but less weight on a car always improves performance whether its gas, Or basic wear and tear on a clutch etc..

Lets face it the mazdaspeed 6 is a boat well to me it is. Then Again anything over 3,000lbs is a boat to me


: Why is the weight of wheels important?
A: Wheels are rotating mass/unsprung weight. Every 1 lb reduction in rotating mass is equivalent to an approximately 8 lb reduction in static weight. With lighter weight wheels, you will benefit from increased fuel savings, quicker braking, improved tire wear and better acceleration. Always ask about the weight of wheels. Your vehicle is not engineered for heavy wheels. Therefore, it will not perform well if you effectively put four anchors on it!

http://centerlinewheels.com/faq.php#benefits



http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q1/effects_of_upsized_wheels_and_tires_tested-tech_dept


What’s immediately apparent from the results is that as the wheel-and-tire packages get larger and heavier, acceleration and fuel economy suffer. Neither is a huge surprise, but we measured a 10-percent drop in fuel economy and a four-percent degradation in 0-to-60-mph acceleration from the 15s to the 19s, which is worth considering should you be thinking about “going big.” Increasing wheel diameter and width, in turn, requires wider tires with shorter and stiffer sidewalls, which we found will increase skidpad grip, but as our test shows, there is a limit to this assertion. The 19-inch package came with the widest tires (235/35R-19) mounted to the widest wheels (8.5 inches), but this setup had less grip around the skidpad than the narrower 225/40R-18s on 8.0-inch-wide wheels. We asked the folks at Goodyear why that might be, and they postulated that the added width may have given the outside tire more grip, which would increase body roll and could therefore decrease the load on the inside tire enough to lose 0.01 g on the skidpad.

Surprisingly, the 225/40R-18s showed a big skidpad advantage compared with the 225/45R-17s (0.89 g versus 0.85 g). We *suspect the difference is due to the grippier compound (lower wear rating) of the W-rated 18s. Goodyear does offer a W-rated GT in the 225/45R-17 size, which is what we intended to use, but Goodyear sent us the V-rated version for our test.


As wheels and Tires get Heavier 0 to 60 and Fuel Economy Suffer

That was a Car and driver test.. And as you stated the grip on road racing improves with a certain increase in tire size and wheel size but to that there is a limit as well

The difference between a 54lb wheel and tire combo vs a 40lb wheel and tire combo on that car were..

Over 2 mpg loss going to the heavier one and 2mph loss.. While the skidpad increased from .083 to .088 I think.. But 2mpg loss and 2mph down is a huge loss well to me it is anyway.. Heck just an increase of 6lbs for the wheel and tire combo lost 1 mph on the car and .4mpg
 
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H&Rs on Koni Yellers. Im pretty excited, Im not much of a wheels guy and spent a lot of time debating between spacers and the stockers or wheels to correct the tuck in the front. I decided instead of making the car heavier, I'd achieve the goal of fixing the tuck and lightening up the four corners for a little more money!
 
BTW, if anyone cares, the Conti Contact DWS is the lightest tire I have seen in the stock size configuration. 19lbs. That's 3 lbs lower then the next tire I believe...the Exclaim UHP at 22lbs.
 

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