Removing the CEL bulb LOL

[DooMer_MP3]

i guess you didnt read my post about the mazda tech huh? he has no idea wtf youre talking about...i think ill trust him over you until i see otherwise for myself

Yeah, and some mazda techs think that the rear swaybar clunk is completely normal in the MP3. And some mazda techs think an intake will ruin your transmission because it generates too much power even though the MSP uses the same transmission with an extra 40HP.

Point being, some Mazda techs don't know it all. Why? Because they fix problems on cars. They don't usually remove cats for customers or add performance mods like we do.

Chris

 

[PaulMP3]

The Man seems to know a ton of info about our cars.
Might want to do a lil more research, to be sure.

 

[Matthew]

either way i can get a CEL fix from apex in tempe, AZ...so whether the problem will happen or not when the cats are removed, the fix will fix the problem, therefore making this thread a moot point...

 

[TheMAN]

then why did you waste our time?

 

[Micah]

i guess you didnt read my post about the mazda tech huh? he has no idea wtf youre talking about...i think ill trust him over you until i see otherwise for myself

Hey, not for nothing. Be aware that alot of these Mazda techs never change anything from OEM spec. They are taught to keep the car dead on to OEM spec, and they are even discouraged from doing anything but. I have a friend who is a mechanic for Saturn, and another who is a mechanic for Chevy. They are outright forbidden to discuss aftermarket performance.

It's been covered multiple times that if your O2 sensor throws the CEL light, your engine will run rich to compensate for the damage that the ECU assumes can be done. Running a bit rich will not hurt your car. Running lean will blow s*** up.

Buy the unit that fools the O2. If you want to try something else you could contact Perfworks about his piggyback, he is still looking for a test car for n/a. I was going to be the test car - but then I decided to go turbo. Which is also why I have gotten nothing done lately. Right now, I'm at work wearing a Green Tie, Green Slacks, and a Charcoal-Purple shirt. I look like I should be one of the Joker's henchmen. Today after work, I must do laundry before heading to the shop.

 

[Matthew]

i didnt waste your time, in the meantime i was contacted and contacted outside sources...as for the midpipe alone, i talked to andy today at wagner, and he assured me the midpipe alone would not throw a cel because it bolts on after the pre-cat...the o2 sensors are located at the manifold and around the precat, so removing the second cat itself will not throw a cel...he has already test fitted this and has not come up with a cel...however, when i go with the awr headers, the cel fix will be needed...

 

[TheMAN]

how inconsiderate... you *did* waste our time because we gave you the answers you wanted but you didn't accept them

so from now on, you can discuss about this issue with your "qualified" mazda "technician"

 

[Matthew]

no i talked to all sources available...please tell me what makes you so damn special that i should trust your opinion and yours only? how do i know if you know what you or anyone is really talking about for sure? does it hurt to ask around...did you shop around for your car or did you buy it on impulse? when you look for christmas presents for your family would you just buy the first thing you see or would you maybe see if you could get a better price...a lot of information was passed here and that was a good thing - if you want to be an ass, so be it. you said if the cat is removed it will throw a code...well wagnermotorsports test fitted the midpipe without the cat and it did not throw a code...why? because the 2nd o2 sensor is located before the midpipe..so while you claim im an asshole for not trusting your judgement explicity (you didnt say that but implied basicially), you were pretty wrong. so how about you just put me on your ignore list and dont respond to any of my posts if you feel im wasting your time.

 

[Matthew]

im sorry if i sound so harsh, but i take it personally for you to call me inconsiderate and wasting everyones time.

 

[Little Beavis]

Hey, I bought my car on impulse. . .drove by it at lunch, bought it that night!

Removing the second cat will not throw a CEL. Agreed.
Removing the first will, but you can put the O2 sensors before and after the second or only cat at that point and not get a CEL. Or you can use an eliminator, or you can run with a perpetual CEL.

You are free to do as you please. . .you will anyway. Everyone is trying to help. . .we all need to take things less personally.

Peace. . .

 

[Gro Harlem]

I bet you'll blame us when your engine blows up, and not the Mazda tech?

I don't know why you even attempt to modify your car to begin with. You don't understand how the OBD system works, how or why the engine trips that CEL and after you ask those questions, you argue with members who gave GOOD advice about how they are wrong?

I think I am getting dumber after wasting my time reading this worthless thread

 

[PaulMP3]

I bet you'll blame us when your engine blows up, and not the Mazda tech?

I don't know why you even attempt to modify your car to begin with. You don't understand how the OBD system works, how or why the engine trips that CEL and after you ask those questions, you argue with members who gave GOOD advice about how they are wrong?

I think I am getting dumber after wasting my time reading this worthless thread

We are all on here to learn, no need to bash. He has no reason to believe that "the man" is a reliable soure.

no i talked to all sources available...please tell me what makes you so damn special that i should trust your opinion and yours only? how do i know if you know what you or anyone is really talking about for sure?

 

[Matthew]

im sorry i probably should know how to program our cars ecu before i begin to mess with the exhaust setup...if theman was so reliable then why wasnt he right? the mazda tech and andy were right...you know what, forget it, its like talking to a brick wall...i cant believe ive even argued with you this much on a damn message board. sorry thati wasted your time by not taking someones advice immediately.

 

[DooMer_MP3]

Razor,
Your original post said that you were going to get the AWR header AND the midpipe. You will be catless, as you said. You then said you'd remove the CEL bulb and wondered if this is OK.

People responded, and then your Mazda tech claimed he had never heard of that. How often does your tech remove the cats from customer's cars? Mazda doesn't teach them what will happen when they make performance modifications to the vehicle because they don't make performance modifications. Of course he never heard of it.

Chris

 

[Matthew]

yes youre right but the post digressed into the discussion on the midpipe...why argue over such trivialties, lets just all smile