Reflash on the way !!

[nypest]

OMG!!!!! Why is this so difficult for people to identify with?

This is a thread that I started to discus the preference that I made to do something different, and respond back with the results. Not sell a product not! Not broadcast PR! Just because "You" the reader hasnt been made aware about it does not mean that something can not exist, or that it can not be true. Even after people came back and said "yeah hes right there is something else going on" I am called a liar.

How many times do I have to say?

The reason I did not post links to where the prescribed post was; is because I felt it was discourteous to Mazda 247 since the official post from PR was at the "SPEED" forum. I gave my personal email address in the first post so that anyone who might be interested in the full details could have access to that information and it was called "shady". This action was so that I did not disrespect all the other paying vendors by posting PR's info, or to possibly miss quote PR's product. Is it that hard to believe that someone is trying to be polite (rhetorical)

It is incredibly interesting to see how, first posters want to call me out and ask where is the proof of "PR and the reflash" and then when the man speaks up and replies to your suspicions you all want to flip it now by saying this thread is gone about all wrong and spout "rules" and "know how"

I have learned its ok to admit when youre wrong and apologize:

I was wrong to think I could post a thread about this subject matter, and hope for either encouragement or general respectful questions. I apologize to the people who might have read this thread for familiarity or answers but instead received ignorance.

 

[nypest]

Sending in your ECU is fairly common for a reflash depending on what you drive. Its not that big a deal. Further, I feel PR is getting much too much slack than he should be, probably because he is/may be the first to offer a "flash" for the MS3/6, etc in NA. Being first can mean alot of things, some positive, and as evident here, some negative (the haters/doubters). Fact is, who gives a s*** that PNP "piggyback" is "almost" here. The factory ECU fights the changes made by the piggyback to the best of its abilities. They are very touchy with temperature variations, etc. A "flash" changes the code in the ECU for certain parameters (timing, fuel, boost, etc) thus no fighting with itself, no issue in hot to cold temp. changes, etc. A flash will also compensate for minor bolt on's as you add them, just as the factory (stock) ECU would. As more serious bolt on's are added, a custom program can be created to compensate. The VW/Audi/BMW world has been enjoying this for many many years. The AP "sounds" like a good idea, but the programs are conservative (from what I've heard) and good luck to it ever coming out. You guys crack me up giving everyone a hard time. You dont want it, dont buy it. You dont trust it, let others test it first to prove if it works or not. Then make your decision. Why bash when this thread was simply to pass along info. Perhaps I was spoiled when I had my GTI, flashing whenever I wanted, not visible by the dealer, switchable octane programs, fuel pump programs, big exhaust programs, etc. I'll pass on a piggyback any time, any day, any price. PNP or not. Back to your hating please...

Thank you for a usefull post

 

[aaronc7]

Where in FL?

orlando

 

[SharkDiver]

This flash is $700..Lol..Good luck.Why would anyone consider this?The AP will be out soon for the same price or close to it not to mention sending away your ecu and having to send it back before you can take your car to the dealer for work..The price is crazy,it should be more like $300-$400 since we are not getting anything but a flash and if it has to be put back to stock it should be free or almost no cost to the user.

 

[SharkDiver]

Oh and I forgot the ap will also have a read out of your AF,boost,timing and a few other things,with this flash you get nothing but a flash and down time with your car waiting on your ecu..THe price is not justified to say the least.

 

[LENNY127]

sounds shady to me , but time will prove its worth.......what PR is not understanding is that it is a scary concept for a normal guy to send the brains of his car accross the continent when someone out there is willing to send you the tool to reflash your own ECU. It very well may be Cobb stage 1 wont compare to this re flash but thats the benefit of an established company TRUST!!!!!.....good luck .

 

[TinmanMS6]

Vishnu Tuning has been doing the same thing with ECUs for Subarus, Evos, etc. for quite some time and charges about the same amount. There's nothing shady about shipping an ECU to get it reflashed. Overnight it and you've got 2 days of downtime.

 

[PerformanceRacing]

The reason why pricing is so high is because, well my cost is crazy high as well. Piasini, being the only one who have 'hacked' or find a way into these ECUs using their hardware, programs, software, etc definitely controls their pricing here.

I am trying my best to keep prices as low as possible, where again this is sold for about $200 more than our price, $689, includes the cost of us overnight insuring the shipment back to you. I have been a business and member on the other forum for a while (no longer a business there for about 2 years), but we are getting back into the Mazda market. We've been doing EVO, STi, 350Z, Celica, Scions lately.

I hope to change some minds once we begin flashing ECUs (hopefully very soon, 2 weeks-ish).

We are taking Credit Card, PayPal, Mail Orders at this time.. and are working to become a sponsor here (Waiting on Antoine's email still). If I get a reply from him soon (been 2 days since he last PMd me), I will start a new thread up for sure with more details, info, etc. But for now, I hope this thread will suffice..

Any questions, I will be glad to answer here.

 

[dread]

What does the tune do and how much does it do it? Timing, A/F ratios, boost. What is the 40hp based on a us spec ms3, a ms6 or a european car?

 

[fragchild]

Being 45 minutes from O-Town, I hope this reflash lives up to the hype.

 

[RODSCALIP5]

The reason why pricing is so high is because, well my cost is crazy high as well. Piasini, being the only one who have 'hacked' or find a way into these ECUs using their hardware, programs, software, etc definitely controls their pricing here.

I am trying my best to keep prices as low as possible, where again this is sold for about $200 more than our price, $689, includes the cost of us overnight insuring the shipment back to you. I have been a business and member on the other forum for a while (no longer a business there for about 2 years), but we are getting back into the Mazda market. We've been doing EVO, STi, 350Z, Celica, Scions lately.

I hope to change some minds once we begin flashing ECUs (hopefully very soon, 2 weeks-ish).

We are taking Credit Card, PayPal, Mail Orders at this time.. and are working to become a sponsor here (Waiting on Antoine's email still). If I get a reply from him soon (been 2 days since he last PMd me), I will start a new thread up for sure with more details, info, etc. But for now, I hope this thread will suffice..

Any questions, I will be glad to answer here.

Are you guys planning on "certifying" other tuners(other cities) to do this reflash in the future?

 

[PerformanceRacing]

What does the tune do and how much does it do it? Timing, A/F ratios, boost. What is the 40hp based on a us spec ms3, a ms6 or a european car?

Euro, but the same gains were seen on a Mazdaspeed 6 ECU swapped and reflashed into an MPS6, according to Piasini.

 

[PerformanceRacing]

Are you guys planning on "certifying" other tuners(other cities) to do this reflash in the future?

At this time, we are the only ones who will have the reflashing capabilities in the US.
We did not create or design the software, Piasini Engineering has. We are a dealer for Piasini.

 

[PerformanceRacing]

Being 45 minutes from O-Town, I hope this reflash lives up to the hype.

Sounds cool, let me know if you ever want to come by, we can do a reflash in person

 

[controlo]

this sounds good to me... hopefully it's significantly cheaper than the cp-e standback. if so, i'm in.

 

[dkswim]

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[Sacrilicious]

Euro, but the same gains were seen on a Mazdaspeed 6 ECU swapped and reflashed into an MPS6, according to Piasini.

we would like to know what the tune does (timing, AFR, etc.) please answer dread's question about that.

 

[SuperStretch18]

At this time, we are the only ones who will have the reflashing capabilities in the US.
We did not create or design the software, Piasini Engineering has. We are a dealer for Piasini.

PRacing will not be the only vendor. Might be the first, but definitely more coming online as well...

 

[dread]

Euro spec cars are not identicle to us spec and infact have less hp. How can a tune designed for european models be used on american cars. Is this a tune for the mps 6 that is being ported to a US ms3. If so that is not a good idea, the ecu's are completely different.

 

[PerformanceRacing]

this sounds good to me... hopefully it's significantly cheaper than the cp-e standback. if so, i'm in.

It is I cannot say a price here since I am not a vendor yet (Antoine is on vacation and I am waiting for his return.

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I'll try my best to keeo you updated!

we would like to know what the tune does (timing, AFR, etc.) please answer dread's question about that.

Sorry, thought I answered this (sssh)
Piasini created the reflash tuning the AFR by adjusting the ECU's hard core data like fuel, timing, ignition, etc. Exactly what was done is not sure but has proven effective on several MPS3's.

PRacing will not be the only vendor. Might be the first, but definitely more coming online as well...

This is true, but our pricing is very competitive.

Euro spec cars are not identicle to us spec and infact have less hp. How can a tune designed for european models be used on american cars. Is this a tune for the mps 6 that is being ported to a US ms3. If so that is not a good idea, the ecu's are completely different.

Sort of the other way... designed on both an Mazdaspeed3 and Mazda MPS 3 ECU, installed both on the MPS3, same results, and the same was done on the Speed6 (different ECU, different tune).
Th reason they have less hp is because of the way their ECU was programmed to begin with, but it is confirmed that both engines, ECM/ECU is exactly the same